New Ruger Tips

greener · Post by **greener** » Sat Nov 08, 2008 11:53 pm

Had a bit of show and tell with a shooter who had two very nice MKII's. One had Hogue target grips and a VQ compensator and the other had the VQ Volthane grips.

Break in: Loan the gun to a 4H shooting club for a year. They will put enough rounds through it to smooth out the trigger.

Barrel cleaning: Soak in bore cleaner overnight, dry patch, soak overnight and dry patch. Any intermediate cleaning wet patch, dry patch.

Field strip frequency: Have the instructions handy because you don't do it often enough to remember how.

Special care: None, its built like a tank.

You can put enough rounds through a Ruger so that the barrel will twist in the receiver. Ruger has seen that a couple of times.

He had two nice shooting MKII's with excellent stock triggers. By comparison, I baby mine.

recumbent · Post by **recumbent** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:46 am

I have never heard of a barrel twisting on the receiver of any 22 from shooting it a lot.

If that were the case all my Rugers would be like that!!

Post by **Bullseye** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:56 am

Neither have I, a very slight twisting of the receiver could be accomplished if the frame to receiver fit was loose. This condition would appear as canted sights. But, the bolt stop would prevent any pronounced twist, as it passes through the receiver tube at 000' and 180'.

R,
Bullseye

greener · Post by **greener** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:43 am

His explanation was that the rifling spins the bullet, which imparts twisting force on the barrel. After enough rounds (300k plus) the barrel-receiver fit gets worn enough to start turning the barrel so the front sight becomes canted.

I haven't heard too many stories of wearing one out. At the rate I'm shooting mine, I'll put it on my worry list to check every 5 years starting about 2020-2030. There are so many things to worry about, I keep a schedule so that each one gets the proper amount of time and consideration.

recumbent · Post by **recumbent** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:27 am

he stated: You can put enough rounds through a Ruger so that the barrel will twist in the receiver.

I don't think this can happen. Receiver to frame fit can get loose but the barrel will not twist in the receiver.

greener · Post by **greener** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:01 am

Could well be. I'm not much north of clueless when it comes to the mechanics of the Ruger barrel and receiver and the effects of a huge number of rounds through the barrel.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 11:05 am

recumbent wrote:he stated: You can put enough rounds through a Ruger so that the barrel will twist in the receiver.

I don't think this can happen. Receiver to frame fit can get loose but the barrel will not twist in the receiver.

That is not what he said, he said the barrel-receiver besoming loose so that the sight will cant over, due to wear on the mounting lug. Barrel-receiver fit varies, especially on the 22/45'a. I have on gun that has been slightly loose since new and you can twist it a degree or two off center.

recumbent · Post by **recumbent** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:11 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
recumbent wrote:he stated: You can put enough rounds through a Ruger so that the barrel will twist in the receiver.

I don't think this can happen. Receiver to frame fit can get loose but the barrel will not twist in the receiver.
That is not what he said, he said the barrel-receiver besoming loose so that the sight will cant over, due to wear on the mounting lug. Barrel-receiver fit varies, especially on the 22/45'a. I have on gun that has been slightly loose since new and you can twist it a degree or two off center.

It IS what he wrote but probably not what he meant. He didn't write anything about the sights.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:21 pm

greener wrote:His explanation was that the rifling spins the bullet, which imparts twisting force on the barrel. After enough rounds (300k plus) the barrel-receiver fit gets worn enough to start turning the barrel so the front sight becomes canted.

I haven't heard too many stories of wearing one out. At the rate I'm shooting mine, I'll put it on my worry list to check every 5 years starting about 2020-2030. There are so many things to worry about, I keep a schedule so that each one gets the proper amount of time and consideration.

Sorry t disagree but that is not the way I read this post. Maybe us old guys are just thiinking ahead too much?

recumbent · Post by **recumbent** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:29 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
greener wrote:His explanation was that the rifling spins the bullet, which imparts twisting force on the barrel. After enough rounds (300k plus) the barrel-receiver fit gets worn enough to start turning the barrel so the front sight becomes canted.

I haven't heard too many stories of wearing one out. At the rate I'm shooting mine, I'll put it on my worry list to check every 5 years starting about 2020-2030. There are so many things to worry about, I keep a schedule so that each one gets the proper amount of time and consideration.
Sorry t disagree but that is not the way I read this post. Maybe us old guys are just thiinking ahead too much?

Read the very first post in this thread. The one that started this thread.
That's the one I'm talking about.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:42 pm

recumbent wrote:
bearandoldman wrote:
greener wrote:His explanation was that the rifling spins the bullet, which imparts twisting force on the barrel. After enough rounds (300k plus) the barrel-receiver fit gets worn enough to start turning the barrel so the front sight becomes canted.

I haven't heard too many stories of wearing one out. At the rate I'm shooting mine, I'll put it on my worry list to check every 5 years starting about 2020-2030. There are so many things to worry about, I keep a schedule so that each one gets the proper amount of time and consideration.
Sorry t disagree but that is not the way I read this post. Maybe us old guys are just thiinking ahead too much?
Read the very first post in this thread. The one that started this thread.
That's the one I'm talking about.

Sorry, missed that one but it sounds pretty much impossibler to me but the?????????, stuff happens. Jusat about anything that is amde can be broken you know?

recumbent · Post by **recumbent** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 12:55 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
recumbent wrote:
bearandoldman wrote: Sorry t disagree but that is not the way I read this post. Maybe us old guys are just thiinking ahead too much?
Read the very first post in this thread. The one that started this thread.
That's the one I'm talking about.
Sorry, missed that one but it sounds pretty much impossibler to me but the?????????, stuff happens. Jusat about anything that is amde can be broken you know?

I know what you mean we used to have a guy at work that could break anything. He broke a cast iron vise once.....put a cheater bar on the handle and broke a jaw off it.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:10 pm

I know what you mean we used to have a guy at work that could break anything. He broke a cast iron vise once.....put a cheater bar on the handle and broke a jaw off it.

Been there and done that too. Back in my working days as a motorcycle and small engine service tech, I always bought Snap On tools because the guarantee and the service were good and they were very well made. Needed a 1/2in breaker and the salesman broought me in an 18 inch long one, I told him I said a real breaker bar, he brought in a 24 inch and I bought it. A few years later I twisted the end that holds the socket off and he asked how in the Hell did you break the, told him , with 4 foot piece of pipe. He brought me in a new one with no more questions asked.

greener · Post by **greener** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 5:52 pm

Didn't mean to start this.

The only way to resolve the issue is to shoot 300k rounds from a Ruger. Let's see, that's ~900 rounds/day if I do it in a year or 500 rounds per day and two years allowing for a couple of holidays, hurricanes, etc.

Of course if it doesn't happen in 300k, it may take longer.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Nov 09, 2008 6:22 pm

greener wrote:Didn't mean to start this.

The only way to resolve the issue is to shoot 300k rounds from a Ruger. Let's see, that's ~900 rounds/day if I do it in a year or 500 rounds per day and two years allowing for a couple of holidays, hurricanes, etc.

Of course if it doesn't happen in 300k, it may take longer.

Rob, you are rotten, really being experienced in mechanical things as working in service and engineering and machining most of my life, I don't think it could happen in 1,000,000 rounds. Herve heard guys destroying the receiver by trying to unthread the barrel as it is an interference thread fit. Understand they have to pretty much be machined out. Of course I have been called a big thinker and been accused of doing things without thanking