On 22 ammo

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:34 pm

It's easy enough to blame the lawyers, and to a certain extent they deserve it, but I think it's greed (read beancounters) that are the cause for reduced quality, and lack of demand for high standards on the consumer's part. Lack of pride for producing the best product one can produce also plays a role but if the boss insists on quantity rather than quality it's not the worker's fault is it?

You are right, the after market does benefit from all this but once again at the expense of the consumer. Come to think of it the manufacturer could charge and additional $50 for the best possible trigger and I would gladly pay it because before it's over and done with I will spend the extra $50 to buy aftermarket and waste my time having to install it. Who ultimately looses out on this? The manufacturer and I the consumer.....

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:37 pm

Bullseye, do you have personal experience with these particular Mossberg 22s, and if so do you have any words of wisdom you'd like to share with me?

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 7:57 pm

Here's the 44 I ordered today, does anyone recognize the scope? The seller said it's not a big deal scope but it is older....

Post by **Bullseye** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:53 am

Unfortunately I haven't played much with the Mossy 44's. Shot a few 44's and 35's over the years but haven't worked on any. I preferred the Win 52 for smallbore prone shooting.

This link might be helpful. http://stevespages.com/ipb-mossberg-144ls.html

R,
Bullseye

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:57 am

I should have known you'd go for the best Bullseye. Never shot a 52 but there's gottta be a valid reason it's called "perfection in design". Can you share a bit of what makes it so special? Never even seen one in person much less handle one. What makes it so much better than the Mossberg? Accuracy? Handling? Performance? Reliability? Trigger pull?

Thanks for the link....

Post by **Bullseye** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:32 am

The 52 has a excellent fit and finish. The 52 Target comes in a heavy stock, with Parker-Hale adjustable aperture sights, and a really sweet adjustable trigger for a rimfire target rifle. A little on the heavy side for 3 position smallbore rifle, but if you're working on improving your highpower scores this 11 lb rifle is the way to do it.

R,
Bullseye

toyfj40 · Post by **toyfj40** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 12:19 pm

Bullseye wrote:The 52 has a excellent fit and finish.
The 52 Target comes in a heavy stock

a quick-search found this one... several photos...
http://outfitterz.com/Auction/ViewItem. ... m=97415147

Post by **Bullseye** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:30 pm

Here is the stock version that I used to have. Mine also had a bull barrel which was thicker than this one shown.

This is a photo of Rembrandt's 52C Target that he posted on Rimfire Central.

R,
Bullseye

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 3:52 pm

On top of a Corinthian column yet. Both pieces of art, one's just older

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:43 pm

OK guys, this morning was somewhat windless so I decided to perform an ammo study with my Mossberg 44. All targets were shot via bench rest, 7 shots each, at 25 yards. I hope my findings will also be helpful to someone else besides me.

Comparison of 2 types of CCIs and PMC Zappers. My rifle really seems to like the Zappers and the CCI mini mags.

Comparison of bulk Federals, bulk Winchesters, and 2 types of Remingtons, one target is of bulk and one of Gold Medal (my rifle really seems to like the GMs).

I tried various combinations of apertures on my new Lyman front site and ended up using a combination of a yellow aperture, as a background aperture and a short post. This combination seems to help my tired eyes target better, but still, at 75 yards I was very much straining to see the size of targets I was shooting clearly. As much as I like shooting with stock and peep sights I am afraid I'll soon end up shooting solely with scopes, beyond 50 yards.

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 8:57 pm

Bullseye if I may ask, why did you sell your 52? As an avid shooter I'd think you'd want to hold on to such a beautiful specimen.

Post by **Bullseye** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:04 pm

Yes, when I got my Annie there was no need to keep it anymore. At that time in my life I was still in the service and space was a problem along with multiple moves around the country. Didn't have the same ability to hold on to firearms that I didn't shoot much.

R,
Bullseye

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 9:36 pm

Is Annie a person or a beloved shooting toy?

Post by **Bullseye** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:34 am

Anschutz Standard Rifle.

R,
Bullseye

gcp · Post by **gcp** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:37 am

Correction!! The above targets were shot at 25 yards not 50. I musta been tired last night