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Song Dawg · Post by **Song Dawg** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:42 am

That Federal Bulk 550 .22 rimfire pak we've all come to know and love @ Wally just went "TILT"on the old pinball machine.

...Yesterday $9.98 today $11.97! It's universal so if you're so inclined ..grab it and growl while you're able.
Some stores may not have made the price change as yet..but it's in the works!

That's 20% folks ..to match that 20% raise ya got!

...and the hits just keep on comin'!

SD

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:37 pm

It was only a matter of time. Other brands went up in other stores long ago. Still a bargain at $12.

R,
Bullseye

Song Dawg · Post by **Song Dawg** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:45 pm

Yeah but!

..... Yeah but soooo many firearms related things are going off the charts. 20% single bang increases weren't even around during those inflationary 70's! This could get serious for many. My favorite Fed Auto Match jumped from 10.00 from last winter to 14.50ish over night
My buddies and I always help out newbies by taking them shooting. We supply the guns in most cases but the ammo in all cases.
It's the best way to educate folks about the enjoyment of firearms related activities! The old HABITUAL shooters like us will only be irritated by the increases but others like "would bee's" might turn in to "not bees"

Hope not!

SD

Post by **Bullseye** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:57 pm

It's a strategy: If you can't legislate something out of existence then price it out. Everything shooting related is sharply increasing, range time, ammo, and firearms. The tactic is the same one that was played with smoking. Narrow down the venues, limit the areas for hunting, and cut off the materials/components necessary to carry on, and the shooting sports will die on the vine. Better get used to it, because it's only going to get worse.

R,
Bullseye

DancesWithSquirrels · Post by **DancesWithSquirrels** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:17 am

Yep, all these latest price increases can put a serious crimp in somebody's shooting. But there are still some ways to cut costs to try and keep up with your shooting. I did the math a couple of weeks ago and it is costing me a little over $6 a box to reload .45 ACP with lead bullets. That is with purchased bullets at the most recent prices. I am sure that will also continue to rise because last summer I think I arrived at a cost of $4.50 a box. One of my biggest headaches is getting primers. They are not always in stock and hazmat fees for shipping them means you have to buy in pretty large quantities to make it worthwhile.

I have access to two gun clubs both of which have very reasonable annual memberships. One with an indoor range is $60 a year and the other is $30. If I had the time and was able to take on some club related work I could get that reduced to nothing. There are also places on public property such as wildlife management areas where some limited shooting is available.

It is not getting any easier but someone who really wants to shoot can find a way. It is the newcomers who don't think the effort is worth it that will look for another hobby. It is a shame to lose them.

DWS

toyfj40 · Post by **toyfj40** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:30 am

DWS... et.al.
yes, "where there is a will there is a way..."
but (trying to not sound 'radical') we need to consider more
than finding ways to "deal with it"... and effectively 'speak up'.

I get frustrated with the (ignorant) attitudes,
which, frankly, strike me as a 'game' (by the gun-banners)...

I do not attribute enough "intelligence/cooperation" among THEM
for them to have an effective plan or conspiracy...

it's a lot like the goof-balls in Jr.Hi Math/Sci class that spent more
of their time/effort in arguing about a lesson than just "learning"...
but NOW they are grown and have continued to hone THEIR "skill".

(... grumble... gripe... #*($&$ ... ) --toy

DancesWithSquirrels · Post by **DancesWithSquirrels** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 12:27 pm

While I don't doubt the anti-gun crowd will resort to anything and everything to get their way, it sure looks as though the latest rash of price increases is legitimate. The cost of the raw metals used in ammunition manufacture has really been rising. You can verify that by checking the markets. Now if the increases in ammunition costs were being caused by some sort of taxes or manufacturing fees then I could believe that the antis were at work.

DWS

toyfj40 · Post by **toyfj40** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:05 pm

DWS: excellent point... I failed to preface with a Generalized Statement,
not that the "antis" were manipulating world-metal-prices...
I agree the base-metal Supply/Demand is increasing the prices,
that's just basic 'capitalism'...

I think we should find a way to combat this by making the
TV-evening-News and News-Print less of an impact for the
1st-Amendment advocates... by increasing the use of the
Internet to get our MIS-information ...
(ONLY KIDDING... I think)

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:15 pm

toyfj40 wrote:DWS: excellent point... I failed to preface with a Generalized Statement,
not that the "antis" were manipulating world-metal-prices...
I agree the base-metal Supply/Demand is increasing the prices,
that's just basic 'capitalism'...

I think we should find a way to combat this by making the
TV-evening-News and News-Print less of an impact for the
1st-Amendment advocates... by increasing the use of the
Internet to get our MIS-information ...
(ONLY KIDDING... I think)

Ya'al got to much time on your hands Tex. Yur fixin to think and that may be a bad idea.

Song Dawg · Post by **Song Dawg** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:13 pm

Sin taxes are one thing but this isn't tax related this is the manufacturewr raising the price supposedly based on increase material costs.
Me thinks USA wanted China and India to become players....and now they are!
The home team takes another hit!

SD

Blindpig · Post by **Blindpig** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:28 pm

Good points, all of you. Every time I turn around, I see something about how bad hunting and shooting in general is. These people are poisoning the minds of our children and young people against our sport. If the decrease in the number of hunters in the last 5-10 years is any indication (and I think it is), ours is a dying pastime unless we can have a greater influence on the political process. If you haven't already done so, renew your NRA membership.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:35 pm

Blindpig wrote:Good points, all of you. Every time I turn around, I see something about how bad hunting and shooting in general is. These people are poisoning the minds of our children and young people against our sport. If the decrease in the number of hunters in the last 5-10 years is any indication (and I think it is), ours is a dying pastime unless we can have a greater influence on the political process. If you haven't already done so, renew your NRA membership.

Did you ever notice when you go to the range that their are very few dark hairs, just us grey hairs, white hairs, little hirs and no hairs, does that tell you something. At our club a new shooter is a guy under 50. Next fall I will have a son that old.

Blindpig · Post by **Blindpig** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:00 pm

B&OM, you're right about the age of the guys at the club; ours is the same way. Saturday, however, when I went out to pop a few rounds from the SBR, they were running a CCW class of about 40 people and I saw quite a few young guys (and a couple of young ladies) there. I'm not sure, though, if these people will ever become actual shooters or just remain gun owners. When we run classes at the club, the manager does a little commercial about at the end of class, passing out application forms and encouraging the participants to join. Unfortunately, it's a little like the altar call at church. You can give the invitation but you don't always get a positive response. Too bad, really, in both instances.

Post by **Bullseye** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:25 pm

In order to keep shooting sports viable we must all get involved in training Juniors - they are the life blood of the sport. When we share our experience and make shooting for them enjoyable, they will carry on and do the same for the following generations of shooters. This goes beyond the family. It means working with other people's kids and helping them find success in shooting, even if it starts with air guns.

R,
Bullseye

Blindpig · Post by **Blindpig** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:38 am

Bullseye wrote:In order to keep shooting sports viable we must all get involved in training Juniors - they are the life blood of the sport. When we share our experience and make shooting for them enjoyable, they will carry on and do the same for the following generations of shooters. This goes beyond the family. It means working with other people's kids and helping them find success in shooting, even if it starts with air guns.

R,
Bullseye

Amen to that, Bullseye. I fondly remember my Dad starting me out at age 8 with a Red Ryder BB gun for my birthday. Air guns are a great way to start young kids in the sport.

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