Are you suggesting that common sense isn't all that common?Bullseye wrote:Now you're seeing the liberals use of the word "sense" in them. Common sense = "Non(e)-" sense, with emphasis on "none" with regard to firearms legislation.greener wrote:I knew common sense firearms laws would reduce the number in circulation.
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Bullseye wrote:I've seen some of the pictures and have to disagree, anyone who dives under the ice in near-zero visibility conditions, with full-face gear and a dry suit, qualifies as "extreme" in my opinion.Not that extreme..... But I am hoping for good ice on the lakes to go diving under....
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we had 60-70 feet of visibility on this dive......... and 10" of ice and a foot of snow overhead. the shots looking up at the ice hole were from 50' down
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Lakes covered with ice I know absolutely nothing about, but i do know about the Charter Arms Bulldog 44 Special. Mine is a black coated stainless steel DAO (aka "hammerless") 2 1/2".
It fits in my front pocket no problem. We live in a rural, very low violent crime area so I'm comfortable with 5 chances plus an HKS speedloader with 5 more. Right now I'm using Winchester Silvertips.
When I feel the need for more firepower I supplement the pocket Bulldog with a 357 J frame in a belt holster under an untucked shirt.
Buffalo Bore has introduced a 200 grain hard cast full wadcutter 44 Special round suitable for Charter Arms that clocks 920fps out of a Bulldog. I haven't tried it yet, but plan to.
It fits in my front pocket no problem. We live in a rural, very low violent crime area so I'm comfortable with 5 chances plus an HKS speedloader with 5 more. Right now I'm using Winchester Silvertips.
When I feel the need for more firepower I supplement the pocket Bulldog with a 357 J frame in a belt holster under an untucked shirt.
Buffalo Bore has introduced a 200 grain hard cast full wadcutter 44 Special round suitable for Charter Arms that clocks 920fps out of a Bulldog. I haven't tried it yet, but plan to.
"There is nothing so exhilarating as to be shot at without result."
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I don't know much about Charter Arms other than they have lot's of colorful products. I like their description of the grips as "recoil friendly". http://www.charterfirearms.com/products ... ematic.asp
Charter Arms seems to focus their production on SD revolvers. How do their revolvers compare to S&W, Ruger, Taurus, etc? You can always shoot .44 special from a .44 magnum. Does the .44 special comparatively drop enough bulk and weight to make it preferable for carry?
Charter Arms seems to focus their production on SD revolvers. How do their revolvers compare to S&W, Ruger, Taurus, etc? You can always shoot .44 special from a .44 magnum. Does the .44 special comparatively drop enough bulk and weight to make it preferable for carry?
Ice diving - I was responding to your comment about losing all your firearms in a canoeing accident and recalling a picture you once posted of diving in some harsh conditions under the ice. The point was you possess the skills to recover those items, after all you have been trained to do so in an investigation in your line of work. So I'd rethink my excuse about lost firearms to something more out of your locus of control. A good investigator would see right through that one.bgreenea3 wrote:Not sure how we got side tracked to icy lakes.... But I would take the 44 spl any day for SD.

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Hmmm? Not sure if this is about the charter arms 44sp or ice diving, LOL. Both sound interesting. Since I don't know nothing(bad english) about ice diving, I say the little I know about revolvers. Revolvers a cool, period, and the CA 44sp surely fits that niche, and I would like to own one. At just over 20 oz empty weight it can be carried w/o much hassle. The 44sp can be loaded with an 180g xtp, whereas my 38sp is loaded with 125g xtp, so we're talking a lot more beef per shot! Nothing as pleasant as a rimmed cartridge to reload to, no worries about head spacing like non-rimmed. I also feel sd people worry tooo much about penetration. It's gotta go through a steel wall, then the bg, then lodge halfway through a tree to make some happy. My choice would be to penetrate the victim without and not have enough energy to hurt another person. With all this being said, I still like my Ruger LCR 38sp+p for it's concealability, carryablility, and power. It's one of my fav carry sd guns.
Now, what I know about ice diving: "Be very, very, careful"
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Now, what I know about ice diving: "Be very, very, careful"
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Right, I also know how hard it is to find anything in zero visibility murky waters in the bottom mud...... metal detectors do help a lot.Bullseye wrote:Ice diving - I was responding to your comment about losing all your firearms in a canoeing accident and recalling a picture you once posted of diving in some harsh conditions under the ice. The point was you possess the skills to recover those items, after all you have been trained to do so in an investigation in your line of work. So I'd rethink my excuse about lost firearms to something more out of your locus of control. A good investigator would see right through that one.bgreenea3 wrote:Not sure how we got side tracked to icy lakes.... But I would take the 44 spl any day for SD.![]()
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And here I was going to compliment you on never being out of your depth.bgreenea3 wrote:Right, I also know how hard it is to find anything in zero visibility murky waters in the bottom mud...... metal detectors do help a lot.Bullseye wrote:Ice diving - I was responding to your comment about losing all your firearms in a canoeing accident and recalling a picture you once posted of diving in some harsh conditions under the ice. The point was you possess the skills to recover those items, after all you have been trained to do so in an investigation in your line of work. So I'd rethink my excuse about lost firearms to something more out of your locus of control. A good investigator would see right through that one.bgreenea3 wrote:Not sure how we got side tracked to icy lakes.... But I would take the 44 spl any day for SD.![]()
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I'm rated for 100' or so, I try to be above that depth!greener wrote:And here I was going to compliment you on never being out of your depth.bgreenea3 wrote:Right, I also know how hard it is to find anything in zero visibility murky waters in the bottom mud...... metal detectors do help a lot.Bullseye wrote: Ice diving - I was responding to your comment about losing all your firearms in a canoeing accident and recalling a picture you once posted of diving in some harsh conditions under the ice. The point was you possess the skills to recover those items, after all you have been trained to do so in an investigation in your line of work. So I'd rethink my excuse about lost firearms to something more out of your locus of control. A good investigator would see right through that one.![]()
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"Courage is being scared to death... and saddling up anyway."
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