Home Protection

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:07 pm

perazzi wrote:
bearandoldman wrote:
perazzi wrote:Shotgun fits badly in my nitestand...
Kind of hard to swing a 32 inch barrel trap gun in a narrow hallway. pistols are much more flexible.
Yeah, I hate running thru the doorway and finding myself on my back because I forgot it was 16 inches wider than the door....

Sure would lik to see the video on that move.

perazzi · Post by **perazzi** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:10 pm

Think.. "Charlie Chaplin" lol

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:12 pm

perazzi wrote:Think.. "Charlie Chaplin" lol

Or if you had friends with you, Larr. Moe and Curly?

charlesb · Post by **charlesb** » Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:44 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
perazzi wrote:Shotgun fits badly in my nitestand...
Kind of hard to swing a 32 inch barrel trap gun in a narrow hallway. pistols are much more flexible.

My 18" Mossberg cruiser with the pistol grip and extended magazine is quite handy, makes a good car gun for long trips, loaded with alternating #4 buck and slugs.

At home, it's loaded with birdshot to reduce the wall penetration factor a bit.

I live out in the sticks, in a major illegal immigration corridor, right across from the railroad tracks so we get troublesome visitors from time to time. Generally the sound of the Mossberg being cycled is immediately followed by the sound of running feet in the darkness.

I have a .40 caliber auto at home too, but the Mossberg is more powerful and I feel better armed with it than with the pistol.

- But that's just me!

If I had to depend upon a handgun only, I'd have a laser sight on it for the kind of situations I tend to encounter.

I like my custom Govt model in 45, but to be honest my favorite handgun for defense is a cheap old Astra A-100 DA in .40 caliber.

greener · Post by **greener** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:39 am

I like the 12 gauge with the shorter length for HD. I keep a handgun and mostly .38 +P (my 442) out. BG's coming into the home in my area do not seem to happen. Besides, I believe a well-placed shot or two from anything 9mm and above should be effective enough.

If the area were rougher, I believe my handguns would be .357 or .45, or both. I don't have to worry about children and guns, so it makes keeping on handy much easier.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:55 am

greener wrote:
If the area were rougher, I believe my handguns would be .357 or .45, or both. I don't have to worry about children and guns, so it makes keeping on handy much easier.

Yes, being old does have it;s advantages. You can keep them handy without any worries, Bear don't have thumbs. so he is no problem. Had to give up my shotgunning due to a vision problem, so at this time I do not even own one. When I did the were strictly target O/U's for skeet and sporting clays, maybe a round of trap once a year, sporting clays was my favorite shotgunning game.

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:33 pm

Talk me into or out of a Glock

As far as reliability, I think the glock is a good choice. You don't hear of many Failures with it.
Haka

greener · Post by **greener** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:33 pm

Hakaman wrote:
Talk me into or out of a Glock
As far as reliability, I think the glock is a good choice. You don't hear of many Failures with it.
Haka

Other than Kaboom

Glocks appear to have an excellent and deserved reputation for reliability.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 5:51 pm

greener wrote:
Hakaman wrote:
Talk me into or out of a Glock
As far as reliability, I think the glock is a good choice. You don't hear of many Failures with it.
Haka
Other than Kaboom

Glocks appear to have an excellent and deserved reputation for reliability.

You got to look out for thme plastic guns, they ain't made out of steel you know?

greener · Post by **greener** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:04 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
greener wrote:
Hakaman wrote:As far as reliability, I think the glock is a good choice. You don't hear of many Failures with it.
Haka
Other than Kaboom

Glocks appear to have an excellent and deserved reputation for reliability.
You got to look out for thme plastic guns, they ain't made out of steel you know?

Those modern high strength advanced polymeric material handguns don't rust as quickly as steel. Besides, what do you have against tupperware and saran wrap?

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:22 pm

Other than Kaboom Laughing
Glocks appear to have an excellent and deserved reputation for reliability.

Being the worry wart that I am, I did much research on the Glock Kaboom problem. I have come to the conclusion that all of these problems are a result of "bad" ammunition. Glock has been known to have chambers that are not fully supported. This, in itself, is not a negative thing. But when mixed with over-charged ammunition, can lead to problems. Also, when stressed out brass is reloaded with max charges, there can be problems. Another form of problem is the Polygonal rifling, which is a type of rifling wherein the traditional lands and grooves are replaced by "hills and valleys" in a rounded polygonal pattern (I looked up the definition, I'm not that smart). This rifling is not good for lead reloads, as I have been told, leading is caused by it. Excessive leading in a barrel causes high pressure build up.......Kaboom. With properly cleaned barrel, and decent ammo, I think the Glocks are very reliable SD weapons.

ps...plastic is lighter then steel

Haka

perazzi · Post by **perazzi** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:50 pm

Ahh, well then. If I shoot factory jacketed bullets and not reloaded Glock fired shells with lead bullets, I shoot be ok.

I think I'll find something that digests everything.. Oh, here's a nice Beretta 92!! lol

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:02 pm

Ahh, well then. If I shoot factory jacketed bullets and not reloaded Glock fired shells with lead bullets, I shoot be ok.

Everybody should get what they feel most comfortable with. I am sort of skiddish when it comes to situations like this, and I would feel very confident in a glock for home protection, no problems there. Imagine all the glocks out in the world right now, and when was the last time you heard of somebody having probs this way? Also, people do reload for glocks, and do so while shooting them extensively at competitions when hundreds of rounds are spent. It is just foolish people who have to push the limits of reloading to get that "little extra" that have problems. A glock would be one of the first guns in my home for self defense, hands down. Just don't do foolish things with them, like any other gun.
Haka

bgreenea3 · Post by **bgreenea3** » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:57 pm

Hakaman wrote:
Ahh, well then. If I shoot factory jacketed bullets and not reloaded Glock fired shells with lead bullets, I shoot be ok.
Everybody should get what they feel most comfortable with. I am sort of skiddish when it comes to situations like this, and I would feel very confident in a glock for home protection, no problems there. Imagine all the glocks out in the world right now, and when was the last time you heard of somebody having probs this way? Also, people do reload for glocks, and do so while shooting them extensively at competitions when hundreds of rounds are spent. It is just foolish people who have to push the limits of reloading to get that "little extra" that have problems. A glock would be one of the first guns in my home for self defense, hands down. Just don't do foolish things with them, like any other gun.
Haka

I've seen 3 broken extractors in glock 22's thats why I carry a 38 snub BUG

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sun Apr 11, 2010 12:25 am

I've seen 3 broken extractors in glock 22's thats why I carry a 38 snub BUG

Maybe you have, but how many working glocks are out there. One could probably say that with every gun. S&W, my favorite guns, had to send both back for repair, but they are still a great gun. People beat the tar out of glock, use glocks probably more then any other handgun, there are more by volume then most any other gun, so odds are you will see some having probs. Your 38 snub is probably a very reliable gun, no disagreement, but when your 5-6 rounds are gone, a glock's 17 rounds are just getting started. People have a love/hate relationship with glocks, not my favorite gun either, but millions upon millions of people can't be wrong. In a gun fight, I'll bet on the person with a glock.
Hakaman