Reloading blanks

ibfestus · Post by **ibfestus** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:29 pm

I have 200+ fired 7.62X51 blank cases. I would like to know if it is practical to reload blanks? Does someone make a blank crimping die? I have read somewhere that blanks were made using out of spec brass and are not safe to reload into ammunition. Is that correct?

Any input will be greatly appreciated.

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:42 pm

I would not reload blank brass. The case necks have been crimped in the extreme and that can severely weaken the brass.

R,
Bullseye

ibfestus · Post by **ibfestus** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 2:23 pm

With all due respect... please read my post again. I am not stupid... but just for your information a blank is called a blank because it does not have a projectile... with no bullet how can a blank generate enough pressure to be dangerous?

My question is about how to reload BLANKS Again a BLANK has no bullet.

recumbent · Post by **recumbent** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:00 pm

What Bullseye said. They have no bullet but are crimped in the extreme so they will feed in a semi auto rifle.

Here is a photo of the ones like I have seen.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/AMM017-5.html

If it were me I would not reload them.

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 5:55 pm

Blanks have plenty of power contained within them. Many people have been killed or seriously injured by misusing blank cartridges. There is a big misconception that because a case does not have a projectile it is harmless, that cannot be further from the truth. Maybe I misread your original post, but there was a reference question about the safety of blanks being reloaded into ammunition. Blank cartridges have enough power to cycle the actions of semiauto firearms (with the proper adapter installed) and that means lots of back pressure. I would not reload these but there are blank crimping dies available. http://www.ch4d.com/catalog/?p=19

As for the severely weakened brass, it doesn't matter if there's a projectile or not because if the weakened end of the brass case ruptures, it can create projectiles of its own - at the worst shrapnel.

I also thought I'd add these notes on blanks from another firearms blog: http://www.frfrogspad.com/miscella.htm#blank , http://www.frfrogspad.com/miscellh.htm Just in case one needs a second opinion on blanks.

R,
Bullseye

ibfestus · Post by **ibfestus** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 8:29 pm

Blanks will not cycle a gas operated rifle unless, of course, you use a BFD (blank Firing Device). That is why they make them!

I don't think you guys have a clue what you are talking about. A blank fired in a functional weapon has never in the history of the world been hazardous unless there was a projectile lodged in the barrel.

You guys have lost any credibility and all my respect.

Goodbye.

ibfestus · Post by **ibfestus** » Sat Jul 04, 2009 10:52 pm

I have fired thousands of blanks at funerals and reenactments. It is becoming almost impossible to find either 30-06 or .308 blanks. The our VFW is having trouble finding supplies for these events. The CMP is no longer supplying an adequate quantity (the paperwork and time is the problem there). We are burying 5 or 6 veterans every week and it looks like you guys are more interested in BS than trying to be helpful.

You guys are so intent on demeaning and belittling other people you lose sight that the person asking the question may be: 1. As informed as you. 2. Has a legitimate question to ask. I asked a simple question. The response was "You are a stupid shit for asking."

Go to Hell!

Georgezilla · Post by **Georgezilla** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 3:37 am

This poor feller was killed by a blank: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum

ibfestus · Post by **ibfestus** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:42 am

Yeah that was 25 years ago and the guy died of stupidity. My high school girl friend died when she got a piece of apple stuck in her throat. Look out for those apples they are dangerous!!!!!!

Downeaster · Post by **Downeaster** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:14 am

Ya know, ya came here looking for advice.

The advice you got was given in an honest attempt to help and was based on the experience and judgement of the folks that responded.

Obviously, you disagree with the advice you got and that's fine.

Trashing the folks that gave you that advice, and polluting this board with your language and bile is not helpful.

Most of us manage to disagree and discuss our differences of opinion in a civil manner, and even on rare occasions manage to swing someone around to our way of thinking.

I think you'll find that calm discussion, sticking to documented facts and keeping it civil will produce better results.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:11 am

Downeaster wrote:Ya know, ya came here looking for advice.

The advice you got was given in an honest attempt to help and was based on the experience and judgement of the folks that responded.

Obviously, you disagree with the advice you got and that's fine.

Trashing the folks that gave you that advice, and polluting this board with your language and bile is not helpful.

Most of us manage to disagree and discuss our differences of opinion in a civil manner, and even on rare occasions manage to swing someone around to our way of thinking.

I think you'll find that calm discussion, sticking to documented facts and keeping it civil will produce better results.

I have to agree with you whole heartedly Downeaster, I totally agree with your opinion. Could not have said it better myself, this forum is know for being honest and friendly.
How's them fresh eggs this morning?

Post by **Bullseye** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:40 am

ibfestus wrote: Any input will be greatly appreciated.

Looking back at your original post I saw this, the final line. Apparently this is not so.

You inquired about reloading spent blank cartridges casings, to which the answer given was, "It's not a good idea." No one has impugned your intelligence, but yet, you are not giving others that same courtesy. The link I provided to you has a brief discussion about how to reload regular cartridge cases into blanks for use in ceremonial/ funeral activities. There's even a reference within that link, on a tested proven powder measurement to use in these ceremonial cartridges from anonymous VFW sources. I even provided you with another link to a vendor who sells star crimping dies for creating blank cartridges.

A question was asked for help and recommendations. If one does not agree with those recommendations, then so be it. Those who responded, including myself, did so with the genuine intent to help and answer the question. If you do not concur with those recommendations that is your prerogative. But I am very disappointed in the attitude you've displayed earlier in this thread toward those who've tried to help. Let me suggest that in the future your questions might be better served if asked on another forum than Guntalk-Online.

R,
Bullseye

Downeaster · Post by **Downeaster** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:49 am

bearandoldman wrote:I have to agree with you whole heartedly Downeaster, I totally agree with your opinion. Could not have said it better myself, this forum is know for being honest and friendly.
How's them fresh eggs this morning?

Tasty!

Hopefully, the birds will be properly grateful for the time I spent cleaning the henhouse this morning too

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Jul 05, 2009 9:51 am

Downeaster wrote:
bearandoldman wrote:I have to agree with you whole heartedly Downeaster, I totally agree with your opinion. Could not have said it better myself, this forum is know for being honest and friendly.
How's them fresh eggs this morning?
Tasty!

Hopefully, the birds will be properly grateful for the time I spent cleaning the henhouse this morning too

I'm sure they wil show their appreciation by giving you a double yolker or two in the henhouse tomorrow.

ibfestus · Post by **ibfestus** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:45 am

OK guys I am out of here. I will tell the guys at the next veterans burial that I attend that blanks are too dangerous to be used for salutes or apparently anything else. Enjoy your forum...

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