Bent Sear Spring

[Athena]

Hi, I guess I bent the top of the long leg of the sear spring.
After I noticed that the pivot pins were in the wrong spot I of course switched them back & in the process I bent sear spring. A quick call to Ruger and I will have a new one... three to four weeks from now
Thats just not acceptable so I ordered one from Midway & had it delivered priority. Should be here monday morning. Bullseye league is monday night Arg. Really stinks to make stupid mistakes. I dont have a great track record with springs. Last one I screwed up was the hand spring on one of my Dan Wesson's. Maybe I should just leave things alone!!!!!!!!!
Best,
Athena

[Hakaman]

Athena,
take a look at this thread, I posted some time ago. I purposely put the bend in the sear spring due to a misunderstanding. The gun works fine, over 2000 rds worth until I replaced it with the trigger/sear accurizing kit. In other words, it works just fine the way it is:
http://www.guntalk-online.com/forum/vie ... php?t=1246
you didn't give a whole lot of info on the model? or how bad the spring is. Good luck, though,
Haka

[bearandoldman]

Hi, I guess I bent the top of the long leg of the sear spring.
After I noticed that the pivot pins were in the wrong spot I of course switched them back & in the process I bent sear spring. A quick call to Ruger and I will have a new one... three to four weeks from now
Thats just not acceptable so I ordered one from Midway & had it delivered priority. Should be here monday morning. Bullseye league is monday night Arg. Really stinks to make stupid mistakes. I dont have a great track record with springs. Last one I screwed up was the hand spring on one of my Dan Wesson's. Maybe I should just leave things alone!!!!!!!!!
Best,
Athena

Yoiu know in all my life, and I am an old guy, I do noy ever really recall making an intelligent misteak.

[Athena]

Hi Hakaman, My model is a MIII 22/45. I should have looked at bullseye's proper way to put all this back together & not my way. After installing the VQ accurizing kit the pistol worked fine but, just recently began not resetting again. I thought maybe the loctite did not take & the screw backed out. I cleaned & degreased the gun,applied more locktite, waited about 16hours or so & went to fire. Anywhere between 1 & 5 shots the trigger would not reset whether I shot rapid or slowly between shots. I also tried varying ammo,subsonic,regular,40gr,36gr. Seemed to have more problems with the 36gr though. Backed out the pre travel screw a little at a time. Started shooting and the same till the pre screw was almost falling out. I tried both directions but, you can actually see when you turn the screw the trigger position moving either forward or back taking up trigger travel. Packed up went home & Upon further inspection I noticed I bent the sear spring that goes behind the hammer pivot pin. I bent it while doing that thus (second sentence at top). The only other mod was putting in a VQ ejector. basic stuff. Its funny with spring steel. You cant do much with it after its shaped & heated (IMO). The stuff just breaks if you tinker too much & try to bend it back. If this is not the cause of the trigger not resetting then I am stumped. I had some of my best bullseye scores since making these mods. Another unrelated thing I noticed was by following Bullseye's posted instructions I could not for the life of me remove the loaded chamber pin. Maybe not enough strength ( I also dont want to break another nail) I dont have one of those super magnets that he said to try. I guess Ill try that another day when I get this thing shooting again. Thanks for the reply
Best,
Athena

[Athena]

That should have said VQ extractor not ejector.
Sorry'
Athena

[Bullseye]

I was reading your post about the sear spring. Too bad it was a 22/45 because I had plenty of the regular Mark II/III sear springs and would have sent you a new one. Unfortunatlely I don't have any spare 22/45 sear springs. On the rare occasion where I've bent a leg I have had great success just bending it back carefully with flat billed pliers. As long as you bend the legs straight they'll work fine.



Sometimes removing the LCI pivot pin can be tricky. You have to press just right to tap the pin out. It is under spring tension from the LCI. Too much pressure and you hold it fast. Too little pressure and you cannot counter the spring pressure to tap out the pin.

R,
Bullseye

[Athena]

Hi, I did bend the spring back & it did function but, I will replace the spring with a new one anyway. It did fire correctly with 40gr ammo but, then it happened again. So I backed out the pre travel screw a little bit & it stopped. Then it worked fine until I tried the 36gr ammo & it does it more frequently. I put back the 40gr and it did not do it????????????/ I can't understand why 36 or 40gr would make a difference?
Again I will change the spring & try all over again & see what happens. I've been in contact with Volquartsen & they are willing to inspect the lower. I'll see how it goes with the new spring. Update soon!
Best,
Athena

[Bullseye]

This sounds more like a disconnector not resetting because the trigger plunger tension is too weak. Try replacing the VQ plunger and spring with the factory ones. The few ounces more of spring tension may be all you need to reliably reset the trigger.

R,
Bullseye

[bearandoldman]

This sounds more like a disconnector not resetting because the trigger plunger tension is too weak. Try replacing the VQ plunger and spring with the factory ones. The few ounces more of spring tension may be all you need to reliably reset the trigger.

R,
Bullseye

Right you are my friend,that is one area where a little can mean a lot,does help to open the plunger hole a little also and use the stock spring.

[Athena]

Hi Guys, bearandoldman , I tried putting the stock plunger & spring in & that made it much worse. With that being said I changed the bent spring with a new one & put back the VQ plunger & spring. Went to the club & I backed out the post travel screw a little & I am shooting just fine. I tried using the ammo that has the best grouping which also happens to be the ammo that the trigger was not resetting with the most & after 50 rounds of rapid & slow fire it resets all the time????? I will put some locktite on & recheck it in a few days. Worst case If it happens again I will send it too VQ for a look see. I do appreciate al of your ideas & help.
As for the LCI I'll do that another day.
I may even purchase a VQ upper. I've heard good things about the accuracy of their product. Any thoughts??
bearandoldman , is that the original bear or is he bear 2nd or 3rd? Great looking companion, & bear looks great too!!!
Best,
Athena

[bearandoldman]

I may even purchase a VQ upper. I've heard good things about the accuracy of their product. Any thoughts??
bearandoldman , is that the original bear or is he bear 2nd or 3rd? Great looking companion, & bear looks great too!!!
Best,
Athena

That is the one and only original Bear, he was 10 year old on the 23rd and has been with me 9 years on the 10th of this month. Got him from the Golden Retriever Rescue Society just short of his 1st birthday. Some one paid a lot of money for that dog and did not want him as he probably tracked dirt into their fancy expensive home, maybe they gave their kids away too.?
As far as the trigger, maybe the bent spring was causing a problem, but you have to keep just enough pre and over travel in the trigger to make them work properly. The way that trigger is designed it just needs some travel t operate.
As far as the upper, I would not in my estimation waste the money as that Ruger upper will outshout the shooter any day of the week and twice on Sunday. I have a 22/45 Gr eat Eight and I have had a rifle scope on it and rested I have shot some under 1/4 group of 5 shots with it.