New barrel for HS 107

dsymes · Post by **dsymes** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:59 am

I have a delightful old High Standard 107 Supermatic Trophy with the longer fluted barrel with which I'm learning to shoot bullseye with iron sights. However, while I'm improving significantly and intend to keep practicing, I suspect that I may need to use a red dot to be competative at the local club. My 59 yr old eyes are having a tough time with the iron sights in the relatively dim light of an indoor range. I have a Mark II with an ultradot and a 2lb VQ trigger that is also very very very accurate, but the trigger isn't nearly as nice as the HS.

My qestion is about getting an aftermarket barrel for the HS with a mount for an ultradot that I could use when I want to switch from iron sights to red dot. Should I consider the VQ barrel with compensator (is that allowed for bulseye)? the 6" VQ barrel w/o compensator? Another source??

Thanks,
dsymes

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 2:20 am

You can use a compensator barrel in bullseye competition. That VQ barrel is nice. Another option, if you don't want a compensated barrel, is to buy a regular VQ (uncompensated) 6" stainless bull barrel and purchase the High Standard weaver scope mount separately then combine the two. https://www.volquartsen.com/products/48 ... d-6-barrel
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?p ... ber=695431

Here are the two parts sold separately by another vendor http://www.omegamanenterprises.com/volquartsen.htm (scroll down the page).

R,
Bullseye

dsymes · Post by **dsymes** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:49 pm

Thanks, Bullseye. One of my concerns is whether or not VQ's HS scope mount would require removing the frame mounted rear sight on my Supermatic Trophy. I want to be able to just change barrels and go from iron sights to red dot and back without any sighting in. Or could one just cut off a small amount from the rear of the mount?

Also, are barrels with compensators effective? Do they have any downside (cleaning, fouling, less accruacy)? If they provide significant benefits, why doesn't everyone use them?

Thanks,
Douglas

Hardball · Post by **Hardball** » Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:10 pm

Compensators are not helpful in bullseye. I suggest trying the LSP aluminum sleeved barrel and a low weaver type base adapted to it. Then fit both dot rings on the front of a 1" Ultradot with the extension screwed on. Don't extend the base back past the breech.

Working the slide with the bridge sight still on is best done from under the frame with thumb on one side, fingers on the other. Tough to do , but I think it the best.

http://www.lsp-vt.com/shootacc.htm

stork · Post by **stork** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:51 am

I concur with Hardball on trying the LSP barrel. I would ask around your fellow BE shooters to try theirs.

I have both the Aluminum shroud and the all steel LSP bbls. I cannot shoot the aluminum bbl nearly as good as the steel. Its just too light in the ND wind.

I do have a compensator on one of my HS Citations. While it definitely reduces the recoil, it also increases my group size @ 50 yards. I tested it on 3 different Citation bbl's and the results were consistent on all 3. I now use it only during 50' indoor sectionals and International matches.

FWIW

Post by **Bullseye** » Sun Dec 13, 2009 7:30 pm

That LSP barrel looks like a good choice and it's pre-drilled for the scope mount. I'm with Hardball, I'd like the all-steel version too. Especially having a recessed 11° target crown for that price.

R,
Bullseye

dsymes · Post by **dsymes** » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:53 pm

Bullseye, Stork and Hardball - Thanks for your insights and suggestions. The 6" barrel and mount from LSP sounds like a good choice at a pretty reasonable price.

Douglas

Pete D. · Post by **Pete D.** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:39 pm

In addition to the LSP barrels, you might want to look at the match barrels made by Lou Lombardi at Falcon Machining. I put one on my Victor many years ago and have never regretted that buy.
http://www.falconmachining.com/
Now that I've posted that... and checked, I'm wondering if he is still making barrels. It'd be worth checking.
Pete

dsymes · Post by **dsymes** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:44 pm

Pete - thanks for suggesting Falcon - I've bookmarked their website for future use. Given their backlog (6 months per the website), I decided to go with the LSP barrel and scope mount for now. I would dearly love to have a barrel from Mr. Lombardi, but at this point I doubt that I could specify the best barrel to fit my idiosyncrasies since I'm still discovering them with respect to barrel weight, balance, position of the scope. etc.

For instance, I'm still learning how differences in the pistol's grips affect my results. I have a Ruger Mark 1 with stock grips that I sent to Clark for a trigger job and a Mark II that came with Ruger target grips that I put some VQ parts into. I've never been able to shoot very well with the Mark I, even after the Clark trigger, but can often do pretty well with the Mark II, even at 50 yds. I'd put it down to the barrel rather than thinking about the grips. Well, I finally switched the target grips to the Mark I as a test, and - suprise! - the Mark I is now shooting a lot more 9s anf 10s and I'm calling the shots OK. Aftertravel on both triggers is adjusted to the minimum. I still do a bit better with the Mark II, but it may be that I'm not holding as well through the "crisp" release on the Clark trigger.

Thanks to Pete, Stork, Hardball, and of course Bullseye for all the great advice.

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