Dog-gone trouble

[Hakaman]

A scary incident happened to me the other day while in the midst of my daily walk. My biggest fear came true. A big &*()^'n dog (greyish wolfhound-like), unleashed, came charging at me from a garage. The only thing I could do is turn and face it and hope it would stop, and it did 10 ft from me. This dog was growling/barking and showing his teeth, and figuratively had me pinned so I couldn't move. I tried to walk away, but as soon as I did, it would start charging me again, holding right where I was. This dog looked like it could do some serious damage. Fortunately the owner heard the all the commotion the mutt was making and called it off. Needless to say, she heard some "french" from me. Ironically, dogs scare me more then humans in my neighborhood, and I would have loved introducing this canine to my PM-9. I did, however, call the police with my cell phone to report the incident. They told me that they could not do anything about the situation because:
1)The dog was still on their property (right, tell my heart that as soon as it recovers from cardiac arrest).
2) The dog has to be on a leash, or as in this case, under the owners voice control. (Again, this took 10 years off my life)
The law states that "an individual has to be in a life threatening situation while being attacked by a dog to defend themselves with a gun". I wonder who determines whether the situation with this dog is life threatening or not? I'm sure a good lawyer would help.
QUESTION: How many bites would you take before you put the dog out of it's misery ???
Haka

[recumbent]

Answer: 1

When you walk do you carry a water bottle?

I bicycle and a squirt from a water bottle will stop a dog in it's tracks long enough for me to get on down the road.

They see the water coming at them and stop in their tracks because it's unexpected.

HALT a chemical spray works but so does a water pistol or water bottle filled with a mix of water and ammonia. Very effective....

[bigfatdave]

QUESTION: How many bites would you take before you put the dog out of it's misery ???

I would wait until the dog was moving in for a second bite, but I learned an effective strategy for dog bites years ago. I'll share it with you:
When a dog tries to bite you, feed it your fist. The jaws can't clamp down that close to the hinge, and there is a lot of soft tissue in there, I have had to use this tactic twice (on largish dogs), and both times I had only minor scratches, while the dog suddenly lost interest in bothering me for some reason.

I'm generally neutral about dogs (Bear is OK, B&OM!), but I'm not about to get into a gunfight with one unless I'm actually fighting for my life, because the owner isn't going to listen to your side, they will just call po-po about the guy who murdered their precious pet ... or join into the fight somehow.
Feeding a dog your fist will cause a lot less damage to the animal than shooting it, kicking it, or bonking it with a stick, and you can grab a collar while you're at it, thus maintaining control of the situation.

[blue68f100]

Like they say "Walk softly and Carry a BIG Stick." Most of the walkers in my neighborhood carry a waking stick or golf club. And a few carry a baseball bats.

I always had problem with dogs when I was riding my bicycle. In most cases I knew which ones would likely to chase so I made a point to be going 25+mph when I when by. At that speeds I was there and gone before most could react.

[bgreenea3]

The standards to judge if you were leagally justified to shoot 4 or 2 footed threats to your person are the Totality of the Circumstanses and Objective Reasonableness.

Totality of the circumstances is just what it sounds like.

Objective reasonableness, if the average jo would find your actions reasonable when seen from YOUR point of view knowing and seeing what you did.

that being said you do have to be in a reasonable fear for your safety, that of others, or livestock to be justified of shooting someone's puppy that is trying to eat your gluteus maximus (the southboud end of a northbound Haka if you will). The stopping 10 feet from you made the doggie not be actively attacking you he was just guarding his territory.
Regualar pepper sray works wonders on the dog's sensitive nose, i've used it on a lot of dogs over the years (and a couple of opposms) and it is great . And it dosen't hurt the dog but he learns not to go after you again

[greener]

Some dogs have been trained not to leave the property boundary. I've seen a couple back before they had electric fences. So you don't know if the dog was staying at the boundary and waiting to rip your face off when you crossed it, until he is upon you.

I've used ammonia water in a squirt gun. It works. Pepper spray is easier to carry.

[Hakaman]

I've used ammonia water in a squirt gun. It works. Pepper spray is easier to carry.

I always carry my 9mm when out walking, but I will use my "bear pepper spray" if needed. A good work boot to the chops would send a message too.
H

[montveil]

I've used ammonia water in a squirt gun. It works. Pepper spray is easier to carry.

I always carry my 9mm when out walking, but I will use my "bear pepper spray" if needed. A good work boot to the chops would send a message too.
H

If you want another layer of dog protection add strained (coffee filter) Tobasco sauce to the ammonia in a spray bottle.

[Hakaman]

Hey,
I like the responses, it's giving me some new ideas.
H

[greener]

I've used ammonia water in a squirt gun. It works. Pepper spray is easier to carry.

I always carry my 9mm when out walking, but I will use my "bear pepper spray" if needed. A good work boot to the chops would send a message too.
H

If the dog is 10 feet away, what ever you are going to use should be at the ready. I'd bet a determined dog is faster over 10' than the draw and fire/spray response.

[bearandoldman]

I've used ammonia water in a squirt gun. It works. Pepper spray is easier to carry.

I always carry my 9mm when out walking, but I will use my "bear pepper spray" if needed. A good work boot to the chops would send a message too.
H

If the dog is 10 feet away, what ever you are going to use should be at the ready. I'd bet a determined dog is faster over 10' than the draw and fire/spray response.

When I go for a walk, I depend on a large dog named Bear. Also my walking stick, whick is really a bow rake handle that the rake was broken off and has a large crutch tip for tractiom, kind of like the staff Friar Tuch carried.