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Sometimes things just don't go your way
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:29 pm
by greener
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:10 pm
by Bullseye
More than likely his gun didn't seem that threatening to the clerks. Either way they managed to survive that encounter.
R,
Bullseye
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:46 pm
by greener
I believe I'd assume anyone brandishing a firearm and demanding something might just fire it, even if by accident.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:43 am
by bearandoldman
greener wrote:I believe I'd assume anyone brandishing a firearm and demanding something might just fire it, even if by accident.
Someone starts brandishing a firearm at me and I will do the same, most likely putting several holes in the brandisher.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:44 am
by bigfatdave
http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/10/22/ ... bbery.html
link to "printable" version without the annoying pop-up ad
I'd imagine that someone demanding compliance with a gun as a talisman of authority would be unlikely to continue when they discover that MY weapon isn't a symbol, but an actual working gun.
Of course, avoid, evade, de-escalate first ... but I'm not about to help out a violent felon in any way other than sharing some stored kinetic energy via small pieces of metal.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:19 am
by bearandoldman
I like you thinking, seem pretty much like mine. They better be quick at making decisions as they have from the time I pull it out until the trigger is pulled to drop theirs. Law says I have a right to shoot until the threat is gone, if they die in the process, that was their choice.
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 6:44 pm
by bigfatdave
bearandoldman wrote:I like you thinking, seem pretty much like mine. They better be quick at making decisions as they have from the time I pull it out until the trigger is pulled to drop theirs. Law says I have a right to shoot until the threat is gone, if they die in the process, that was their choice.
An armed robber has many goals
* control the situation
* obtain the loot
* avoid identification
* escape without pursuit
... not even adding in being generally worthless/addled/distracted by being just plain nuts
... ... not even considering the possibility of a secondary goal (powertrip time? Feeling a bit rapey?)
... ... ... that's quite a multitasking list!
MY LIST, on the other hand, is much simpler
1 can/should I exit?
2 if no, can/should I shoot to stop?
3 await opportunity, draw, shoot to stop, assume control
4 alert authorities
... also, my list is linear and only requires me to focus on the dirtbags, they have to watch everybody.
SURPRISE!
Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 9:57 pm
by bgreenea3
I guess the clerks found out how UNdetermined a robber he was....
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:55 am
by blue68f100
It was kind of odd that the employes did not respond to his request, unless they were behind bullet prof glass. It read like he was only after medications and not cash. If he was after cash any customer in the store may have been in danger.
Bigfatdave, I like your thinking. You never now what he's thinking, what he's on or coming off of and how despite he his for his fix, in this case. Always better to look after number 1 (and family) safety first. This is why I prefer conceal carry over open carry, which we do not have in Texas. I want the surprise on my side when the time comes. Were also instructed to shoot till the thread has been stopped, whether it's 1 shot (not likely) or 1 magazine/cylinder.
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:39 am
by ruger22
A few more details would be helpful, like how or why the employees could refuse his "request". Maybe his disguise was Mickey Mouse ears........
