Ammo Hoarders and Scaremongers--Chill Please!!!

[genetics_jo]

To all you ammo hoarders and chillmongers out there...please calm down! President Obama won't be able to ban guns nor will congress go along with it. That's political suicide!

So, the next time you go down to buy ammo...PLEASE BUY WHAT YOU NEED...not everything you see on the shelf. Leave some for other people to buy. Some of us shooters out there have real jobs that make it hard for us to get down to the shop RIGHT when the truck shows up and they're unloading ammo.

And I'm tired of hearing all the fearmongers out there trying to scare everyone into buying up all the ammo and guns they can find! People...relax! You're all acting worse than the 2000K freaks with their doomsday predictions...none of which came true!

Couple the fearmongers with the Government renewing their military contracts and we have a wonderful situation now where NO ONE can get ammo. Was this smart?

So...just chill. Get the ammo you NEED. Go to the range and have fun. Come home, drink a few and enjoy life. There's enough problems in our country that we DON'T have to make more problems that really don't need to exist.

[ruger22com]

I have built up a mountain of ammo myself (especially 30-06 for my garand and 7mm rem magnum for long range shooting) but it is not because of any gun ban...but a very REAL bit of legislation the anti-gun lobby is trying to pass, that will demand id numbers to be printed onto EACH INDIVIDUAL round of ammo, so the bullets can be identified both as to manufacturer, and where it was purchased. When this legislation gets going, you can expect to see ammo prices triple or more, and THAT is what is causing the massive buyout of ammo right now...not a gun ban.

[Downeaster]

I was waiting for someone to respond before I tossed my 2¢ in.

Your trust that "President Obama won't be able to ban guns nor will congress go along with it". is touching but IMHO naive. It won't happen that we wake up one morning to the "Gun Police" knocking on our door to collect all our toys, but unless we are constantly vigilant and actively and aggressively resist every ploy, they WILL keep whittling away at the edges of it until it ultimately happens.

[bearandoldman]

[quote="Downeaster"]I was waiting for someone to respond before I tossed my 2¢ in.

Your trust that "President Obama won't be able to ban guns nor will congress go along with it". is touching but IMHO naive. It won't happen that we wake up one morning to the "Gun Police" knocking on our door to collect all our toys, but unless we are constantly vigilant and actively and aggressively resist every ploy, they WILL keep whittling away at the edges of it until it ultimately happens.[/quote
I really hate to ager with you but I have to because I think your are right. Maybe not in my liftime, because I am an old guy, but my grandchildren will probably see it. Us old guys have seen the best days that this country has ever had and those days will never be seen again, just my honest opinion and I doubt if it can be changed,

[Downeaster]

Thanks, BAOM, and I fear you are also right. This country's best days are behind us.

I often mention to SWMBO that I'm REAL glad I'm not 18 and just starting out.

Not to be morbid, but I've said for years that I hoped to be pushing up daisies before this country went completely to Helen A. Handbasket, but it looks like the schedule has been pushed up.

Hopefully, it's just more of the same thing every generation since Adam and Eve have said, but I really wonder.

[Bud33]

From what I have read and what I can filter out from the media, congress and the present administration have no immediate plans to take our weapons or ammunition. (They have enough problems to keep them otherwise engaged for a while)
One or two rogue senators propose a bogus bill that hasn't got a snowballs chance in he77 of even getting out of committee and that has been more help to the "Brady Bunch" than anything in a long while, and guess what- - - - we are our own worse enemies!!!!!
There is a rush on guns making the gun stores rich and a rush on ammunition also helping the economy and this has done more to limit our ability to enjoy our sport than any previous gun bills.
We need to COOL IT and let things return to normal.
Keep your guard up and stay in touch with your congressman and this will all settle down.

[smokey]

There may noy be immediate plans but I can assure you that the new administration is already making plans. I heard Nancy Pelosi in an interview last week saying that it was her responsibility to start the ball rolling to get the Supreme Court to relook at the ruling they made last summer that overturned the DC gun ban. Once they start you can look out. We have the strongest supporters of gun control in office we have ever had.

[KAZ]

What Downeaster said! They are also going to come at us with a financial hit by increasing the price of firearms/ammunition. I already know people who have stopped sport shooting. For example, they hate COAL which accounts for 70% of the electric generating capacity. They are to smart to ban coal, but will regulate under clean air/UN Mandates rules that make it cost prohibitive. OB said as much in the campaign when he said "they" can have coal as long as they can meet the rules imposed. The same for guns, he is all for "responsible" gun ownership. The devil is in who gets to decide what is "responsible"

[bearandoldman]

What Downeaster said! They are also going to come at us with a financial hit by increasing the price of firearms/ammunition. I already know people who have stopped sport shooting. For example, they hate COAL which accounts for 70% of the electric generating capacity. They are to smart to ban coal, but will regulate under clean air/UN Mandates rules that make it cost prohibitive. OB said as much in the campaign when he said "they" can have coal as long as they can meet the rules imposed. The same for guns, he is all for "responsible" gun ownership. The devil is in who gets to decide what is "responsible"

yup, and that would be the EPA and they have the final say and no one even gets to vote on it.
Glad I am not just starting out either. I was 76 last December, WWII started just before my 9th birthday and I can remember FDR on the radio announcing that Pearl had been attacked and we were at war. I was old enough to understand all the things that were happening, but news reached us days later instead of being to see the battles on TV as you can now as they happen. I got to see the good times after the war and up until the 80's when they started going down the slopes.
I am so old that I can remember when a "JOINT" was a cheap bar in the bad part of town.

[ruger22]

I hadn't owned a gun for twenty odd years until last November, and all the election scare convinced me to get back into shooting. I was convinced that the near future would make all firearms related things at least more difficult to get, do, or afford. I knew this would be due to panic fueling increased demand and shortages. I have been proven right since. I doubt that any of this will become impossible because of anything political any time soon, but who knows?

I've already seen many of the items I bought in late '08 become 20-30% more expensive this year. Ruger's prices went up, though slightly, and Gander Mtn. cut their discount in half. So had I bought my Mark III and Single-Six even three months later, they would have been $50 more, each. My carry cases, holsters, etc. now cost a chunk more than I paid.

I have managed to accumulate about 9K rounds of 22 ammo, mostly Wally World's bricks of Federal HP, and Winchester "333" bricks. I have 800 rounds of Spitfire. I have about 300 rounds of 22 WMR and WRF for the Single-Six's extra cylinder. It took a lot of time, gas, and phone calls to get that much ammo, believe me. A year ago, I could have gotten it all in one trip.

I hope all the scare will blow over soon, like so many times in the past, and the market will be flooded with slightly used guns people really didn't want, once they cooled off and thought things over. And I understand fire departments are giving thought to all the ammo being stashed, and what that could mean in future house fires.

So I based my actions on my experience with human nature, not political possibilities.

[greener]

Dropped by a Walmart this morning. About all they had was a few boxes of rifle ammo and some .22 mag. Stopped in at my favorite gun and fish shop, Green Top, and they were low on ammo and had almost no .22 other than a few boxes of .22 mag and a few boxes of CCI Green Tag. The primer shelf had a few boxes of shotgun primers. When the clerk asked if he could help me I said "I'd like 4000 small pistol primers." His response was "So would I." I wonder then the sales pitch for guns will include, "Since you can't buy ammo, you won't have to clean them as often."

The rumor is that Green Top will not be getting primers until sometime between September and January.

Went to the fishing side and stocked up on silver bullets since it looks like I will be doing more fishing than shooting this summer.

[Hakaman]

I have managed to accumulate about 9K rounds of 22 ammo

Isn't that a reason why there is a shortage?
H

[greener]

I have managed to accumulate about 9K rounds of 22 ammo

Isn't that a reason why there is a shortage?
H

9k rounds are only slightly above the number I'd have before the shortage kicked up, so I wouldn't consider it hoarding. I was buying .22 ammo by the case (5k rounds) before the previous case ran out and I'd have a few bulk boxes of Federals, Winchesters, etc. It was a matter of convenience. I'd still be doing that if I could find it.

I looked at CMP recently, thinking about getting a couple of cases from them. Looks like the shipping date is 120-180 days from order.

[bearandoldman]

I have managed to accumulate about 9K rounds of 22 ammo

Isn't that a reason why there is a shortage?
H

9k rounds are only slightly above the number I'd have before the shortage kicked up, so I wouldn't consider it hoarding. I was buying .22 ammo by the case (5k rounds) before the previous case ran out and I'd have a few bulk boxes of Federals, Winchesters, etc. It was a matter of convenience. I'd still be doing that if I could find it.

I looked at CMP recently, thinking about getting a couple of cases from them. Looks like the shipping date is 120-180 days from order.

9K is really not that much as far as rimfire, not sure if that much would last me through the summer.I usually have at least 3K in stock and if I get down to 1, I am relly getting low. When I could find Fed bulk at WW, I normallly bought 6 or more at a time.

[ruger22]

My 9K rounds may last until spring or so. I just went to a range today and fired about 300. Using my less favored ammo first.

All Remington Golden Bullet brick today. Was surprised that I only got two FTE and one FTF using the Mark III. That's way better for the Remingtons than before I did my mods to it. I think the mag safety removal and LCI plug helped its function.

I plan to keep about 5K rounds on hand until either the current panic is over, or "they" forcibly take my little .22 arsenal..........