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J frame cylinder/barrel gap

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:39 pm
by lucam
Hi everyone.

I measured my cylinder end gap on my S&W, it's .008 or .009. Accuracy is modest, I wonder if having this set around .002 would help?

Hm... Does anyone know who to send it to for fixing?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 6:30 pm
by bgreenea3
I wouldn't worry about the gap. the j frame is a defensive gun, therefor a larger gap ensures that the cylinder won't bind if it got too dirty and ensures reliability.

mine shoots 158grbullets at modest velocities the best. what ammo are you using?

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:00 pm
by Medicine Hat
.010 is usually considered Max, but still OK. Too tight, and crud builds up and may stop cylinder rotation. Not good for defense.
I have a 38/44 N frame S&W built in the 1950s it currently has a cyl gap of .007 and funcitons, and shoots as it should.
Yours is OK.
I would NOT use any +P stuff at all in a J-frame. Just normal loads.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:22 pm
by Bullseye
.006"-.008" cylinder gap is considered in the normal range tolerance-wise.

R,
Bullseye

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:31 pm
by bgreenea3
What do you consider "modest" accuracy? minute of pop can at 10-15 yards slow fire is exellent from a snubbie IMHO.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:51 pm
by bearandoldman
At 5 t0 7 yards, 2 in the chest and 1 in the head, would be in m my opinion accurate enough top do the jib it was intended to, Nexttim e I get to the tool box, I will check the gap on mine. It ain't no target gu nad was not intended to be one.

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:32 pm
by lucam
It's a 22 kit gun, so it's not a defensive stubbie. 3" barrel. Cleaning more often isn't a big deal for me.

I thought that it might have been the goofball fiber optic sights throwing me off, so I changed them for standard blades.

I can shoot a 10" group at BEST at 25 yards. All my other pistols will shoot 2 inches or less at the same distance.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 10:40 am
by ruger22
I had a Ruger Single-Six gapping .011 from the factory. It was spitting lead at next door range shooters, and an extra mess to clean. I sent it back to Ruger. They re-barreled it and replaced the pawl, said the timing was off a hair, too. Got it back in ten days with a .004 gap. Shoots much better and doesn't get so dirty as fast.

Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 4:41 pm
by bgreenea3
call smith and wesson, their service is usually excellent. 10" at 25 is a little big.

Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2010 8:31 am
by greener
bgreenea3 wrote:call smith and wesson, their service is usually excellent. 10" at 25 is a little big.
There are days when a 10" group at shorter ranges seems like the way I'm going and I know folks who just might be happy with that. :lol:
I can shoot a 10" group at BEST at 25 yards. All my other pistols will shoot 2 inches or less at the same distance.
10" sounds too big at 25 yards and I'd talk to S&W. However, their accuracy certification for modern revolvers with barrels 3" or less is 6.3" at 21 yards. They seem to be pretty good at taking one back and giving it a look-over.
The certification below is required only for handguns sold in the United States with a barrel length shorter than 3”.
Smith & Wesson Corp. hereby certifies average accuracy test results for
all new handguns with a barrel shorter than 3” as follows: ....
21 yards 6.3”