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I really like these rds....110 grain in .38 special (hydro-shock)my model 65 -5 S&W likes'um to .............5 of the 6 rds fired went into about a inch @ 7yds......just slightly low but dead center I figure they should hit P.O.A @ about 25 ft.........need a little more testing but I believe I'm gonna carry this round at least till I find some critical defense in 38 sp...these lower pressure rounds are a pleasure to shoot out of this 3in gun.....and make a double tap very easy to do.....

All of my defense rounds are hydra-shock. I have never had to use them but the stats look good and all of my carry weapons like them.

I was lucky enough to find 9mm, 380 and 38spl in the Hornady CD ammo at my local gun range. They just got in a shipment of ammo the night before, that was many months ago when any ammo was hard to find. My neighbor's and I slit up box of the 38 spl for our home guns, and a box each of the 380's. None of us carry this round, just wanted it for our guns that stay by the night stands. Do like the way they shoot, and will be good at night with the low flash.

Keep looking you will find them.

I use the Federal PP rounds in my 9mm CCW gun. They work well on paper and function perfectly in that particular firearm.