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Our Forefathers didn't start out with the intention of establishing a new nation. They only wanted us to be represented in Parliament in England because we were were citizens of Britain and subjects of the King.
We all know the taxation without representation stuff.
What most people fail to remember is what sparked our Revolution was the fact that British troops were ordered to seize and secure ALL American AMMUNITION stores.
What we call the 2nd Amendment today was the very thing that King George III was trying to stifle and suffocate. That's why the battles at Concord and Lexington were fought in 1775. And there was no looking back.
Let us remember on this July 4th what kindled our independence -- it was all about our freedom to be armed and to use those arms to throw off a tyrant. The British Army was ordered to disarm all Americans.
We threw off that tyranny. We have a new one today, but it doesn't need an armed revolution. We need to VOTE.
Only when the ballot box fails should we resort to the cartridge box, and that time has not yet come, but it might some day.
I encourage EVERYONE to read the Declaration of Independence, and do it out loud if you have children and explain it to them in as much detail as you can.
Allen
Independence Day - Year 230
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allendavis
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All very good points. The slippery slope to the War of Independence began when Gen. Gage decided to seize all the weapons stored in Concord, but there were many years of tensions between the colonies and England prior to that point. At first the colonies did not seek to split from England, but the prospect of becoming unarmed slaves ultimately led them to seek total separation from the mother country. The Olive Branch Petition was the final attemt to heal the rift between the two, but when George III rebuffed the offer, the declaration was conceived.
[Excerpt from the beginning of the document]
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world......
For viewing the rest of this document, go here: http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/
Happy Indepencence Day!
R,
Bullseye
[Excerpt from the beginning of the document]
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world......
For viewing the rest of this document, go here: http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/
Happy Indepencence Day!
R,
Bullseye
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allendavis
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Independence Day - Year 230
Bullseye wrote:
It wasn't until after the Revolution was won did most Americans profess profound patriotism and loyalty to the cause of Independence.
Nevertheless, I see the attempt to seize Colonial ammunition stores as one of the most vital sparks that set in motion the events that led to the establishment of the United States of America.
The whole story of our War for Independence is too long and complex for a simple distillation.
Happy 4th of July, Bullseye!
Allen
I know I grossly over-simplified things in my original post, but the attempt to disarm the Colonies was a real catalyst in firing up the Americans in an all-out rebellion against the crown. Even after the Revolution began in earnest, only one-third of the population favored separation and independence. Another third remained fiercely loyal to England (nicknamed the "Tories" after the ruling political party in Britain), and another third that just sat on the fence.All very good points. The slippery slope to the War of Independence began when Gen. Gage decided to seize all the weapons stored in Concord, but there were many years of tensions between the colonies and England prior to that point. At first the colonies did not seek to split from England, but the prospect of becoming unarmed slaves ultimately led them to seek total separation from the mother country. The Olive Branch Petition was the final attemt to heal the rift between the two, but when George III rebuffed the offer, the declaration was conceived.
It wasn't until after the Revolution was won did most Americans profess profound patriotism and loyalty to the cause of Independence.
Nevertheless, I see the attempt to seize Colonial ammunition stores as one of the most vital sparks that set in motion the events that led to the establishment of the United States of America.
The whole story of our War for Independence is too long and complex for a simple distillation.
Happy 4th of July, Bullseye!
Allen
As the times have changed since the Revolution, isn't also surprising how much they've stayed the same, those are just about the same population support poll numbers for the War on Terror today.Even after the Revolution began in earnest, only one-third of the population favored separation and independence. Another third remained fiercely loyal to England (nicknamed the "Tories" after the ruling political party in Britain), and another third that just sat on the fence.
Don't fret, we basically agree on the instrument that started the Revolutionary War. It was a complex problem that developed over years, and a few lines penned in a bulletin board cannot adequately describe all the causal factors, or the intricate cause-and-effect relationships.
Happy 4th to you too Mr. Allen!
R,
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allendavis
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Independence Day - Year 230
It is sickening, isn't it? I don't suppose you're a fan of Rush Limbaugh, or especially Ann Coulter, are you???As the times have changed since the Revolution, isn't also surprising how much they've stayed the same, those are just about the same population support poll numbers for the War on Terror today.
I know, I know. Trying to distill things into a few lines is maddeningly frustrating, especially considering that I majored in US History in college.Don't fret, we basically agree on the instrument that started the Revolutionary War. It was a complex problem that developed over years, and a few lines penned in a bulletin board cannot adequately describe all the causal factors, or the intricate cause-and-effect relationships.
Take care. I suppose this is the end of this thread.
Regards,
Allen
Re: Independence Day - Year 230
I'm not too sure about a guy that hasn't heard that youallendavis wrote:I don't suppose you're a fan of Rush Limbaugh,
or especially Ann Coulter, are you?
I suppose this is the end of this thread.
don't take ****** for your Cock-lea-implants...
On the other-hand, she has really nice LEGS...
it keep my mind off of whatever-else it is that she does...
Yep, end-of-thread... It's History
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allendavis
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Independence Day - Year 230
Not so fast, Bullseye.I'm not too sure about a guy that hasn't heard that you
don't take ****** for your Cock-lea-implants...
On the other-hand, she has really nice LEGS...
it keep my mind off of whatever-else it is that she does...
Yep, end-of-thread... It's History
****** is the greatest recreational medication ever devised by man. I don't need it, but I've used it, and I can't sing its praises enough! And my wife will be grateful when my Rx runs out -- even though I'll get it renewed!
Kidding aside, it really is more of a recreational medication than a treatment for ED. Jeez, the docs all get kickbacks for the prescriptions they write! I don't have any ED, but it sure makes weekends with my wife a helluva lot more fun!!!!!!!
Ann Coulter's legs are worse than chicken legs!!! God, I love her books and her articles, but she needs a lot more meat on her bones! She looks anorexic or however the hell you spell it. She needs to eat more meat and potatoes. Perhaps I should send you some pics of my wife! Now that woman has a body!!!
I love Ann Coulter, but that poor girl looks like she needs to sit down at the dinner table and partake of some beans & cornbread, or even a big pork shoulder roast and mashed potatoes.
The girl is 6'-2" tall, for crying out loud! And she looks like a bean pole!
She simply has no figure. Her measurements are probably 34-34-34.
My wife goes 34-22-36. MUCH MORE SEXY. Not quite Jennifer Lopez numbers, but not still quite nice for a woman with a six-pack belly who is 47 years old.
Allen
Allen, you have mistakenly directed your reply toward the wrong author.
I have heard of both but I can't say I'm a fan of either. Both are very controversial personalities but that is probably by design. I think Limbaugh was entertaining at one time, but that time has long since past. Don't know all that much about Coulter, but it appears she doesn't know how to abandon a sinking ship and is content to hold on tight and ride it all the way to the bottom.
As for the other, I'll take your word on it.
R,
Bullseye
I have heard of both but I can't say I'm a fan of either. Both are very controversial personalities but that is probably by design. I think Limbaugh was entertaining at one time, but that time has long since past. Don't know all that much about Coulter, but it appears she doesn't know how to abandon a sinking ship and is content to hold on tight and ride it all the way to the bottom.
As for the other, I'll take your word on it.
R,
Bullseye