Springfield XD Sub Compact

[Bullseye]

OK, I did a little searching and I found this video clip. It has a demonstration in it of the Mossad technique. Let it load and move the scroll bar to time 1:50 and then watch it goes by fast.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/96599/..._in_guatemala/

One can see that this technique is just as fast as clicking off a thumb safety. I'm charging the weapon before the weapon rises much above belt level. The guy in the video raises the pistol to shoulder height which takes a few more fractions of a second to perform.

Hope this helps.

R,
Bullseye

[toyfj40]

uh-huh... and here's a lesson on how to Reload a Revolver.
(look closely and don't blink, near the end )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIYGzeryEsg

here is an assortment, if you want more...
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=miculek

and on a good-day, I might be able to load faster than
Barney Fife... without ripping my shirt pocket...

[bearandoldman]

uh-huh... and here's a lesson on how to Reload a Revolver.
(look closely and don't blink, near the end )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIYGzeryEsg

here is an assortment, if you want more...
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=miculek

and on a good-day, I might be able to load faster than
Barney Fife... without ripping my shirt pocket...

Jerry Miculek is sooo fast, you would think he was from Texas and not the state to the Est Louisiana. Full mooom clips and tapered cylinders do help on the reload but you still have to be blazing fast and not clumsy. Take care Tex

[Bud33]

When I use the G27 in condition 3 (Israeli), my left hand is the weak hand, and the thumb is closest to the ejection port. This style is like bringing your two hands together, thumbs meeting. The G27 is a sub compact pistol and the slide has a quite stiff recoil spring too.

R,
Bullseye

Getting back to the point!!!! I am holding the gun in the right hand and grasping the slide with the left hand. The ejection port on the XD is on the right side (viewing the gun from the rear). This places the thumb on the opposite side from the ejection port and the pinkie over the port.

[Bullseye]

Well I guess I really am missing the point, I thought you wanted me to describe the technique I use for condition 3 carry. I was also under the impression you wanted to try it for yourself. When I heard your description, I realized that your weak hand position was incorrect for Mossad style, and I was trying to help clear that up. If you want to learn that style of draw, then you'll have to turn your weak hand around, don't grasp the slide with your hand over the top of the pistol.

You can try this without a pistol in your hand. Make a fist with your right hand. Place it out in front of you about mid way with your knuckels up, palm facing down. Bring your weak hand together with the strong hand to form an isosoles triangle. The weak hand and the fist should come together like a lazy "T". If you were to squeeze with the weak hand the thumb would be extended away from you. Since your arms aren't fully extended, you push out with the strong hand and pull back with the weak one. This charges the imaginary weapon and then the weak hand slides down into a supporting position, at the same time both hands move the pistol up into a tactical firing position. Even if you haven't moved the pistol up into a tactical position, you can engage a target point style as soon as the weapon is charged. This is one reason why this style of draw is so fast, you can engage a target with one hand almost as soon as you bring the pistol in front of you.

I'm not critiquing your style, I'm just providing some additional information. I thought your original question was how to use your XD without having the chamber loaded, and answering your inquiry as to how the Mossad method worked. If I've insulted you in any way please accept my apology.

R,
Bullseye

[Bud33]

Bullseye,
It was I that misunderstood
I was trying to push rather than pull the slide.
This reminds me of a lesson from instructors school where the teacher stands in front of the class while the student,facing the back of the room, so he can't see what the instructor is doing, tries to tell the instructor how to open a pack of cigaretts...
You can imagine the outcome
AS usual, your help is greatly appreciated and I was not referring to you with my opening statement.

[Bullseye]

No offense taken here Bud. I didn't want to appear pushy about this drawing technique.

I fully understand your story about the pack of cigarettes. I do that everytime when I assist people with their Ruger pistols. I have to put myself into their shoes and then try to talk them through a procedure that they are already very uncomfortable or really frustrated about.

If you end up practicing that Mossad technique, walk through it very slowly until you get comfortable with the motions. It's kind of like a team of skydivers performing a "Dirt Dive" before going up and trying it out while plummeting to earth.

R,
Bullseye

[Tbag]

Bullseye, this is why I like this site, I learn something new about every time I tune in. I been using your Mossad technique for years, never knew that drawing style had a name. And fast is an understatement, I use to describe it as slingshoting.

[Bullseye]

It's not really my technique, I just adopted it for my own use. That style of draw already had a name, but as you have witnessed, one doesn't have to know the name of something to appreciate it.

R,
Bullseye

[Blindpig]

Well, as much as this is an intriguing way to deploy one's pistola, I think I'll continue to carry my Kimber in condition one and use the DCB technique (draw, click, bang!)

[Bullseye]

I found this on the XD the other day and thought I'd share these links.

http://www.genitron.com/360/360SA-XD.html

http://www.weaponvideos.org/viewvideo/6 ... ping_a_XD/

R,
Bullseye