Desert Warrior

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:33 pm

I just got back from the range, and shot my S&W 686 6". I haven't shot any magnum loads thru it yet, until today. I shot 30 rds of mag, and 20 rds of 38sp. The magnum loads really kick some rear end. For just plain target shooting, I prefer the sp. What a nice gun, really a good shooter.
This brings me to the reason I posted: I rented a SA XDM 40 cal, 4.25" hg. If I were to buy this model, I would get it in the 9mm. The "M" stands for match grade, and that's what the barrel is. The 40 cal has a lot of kick to it, but I noticed that the hg is front end heavy, which subdues the recoil some. Basically, I am looking for another 9mm target shooter to compliment my Beretta M9. I have heard good things about the XDMs. I found it quite accurate, but what does a hack shooter like me know? I want something that fits my hand well, and has a "target" style trigger. (a trigger that doesn't have excess pretravel, or post travel) trigger terms?
thanks , haka

greener · Post by **greener** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:55 pm

I think if it fits your hand and shoots well, then it is probably the one for you. I've fired several of the springfields and they do pretty well. My son just got a .40 and likes it.

I guess if you get the "match" it's better than the standard. From the little I've fired these, except for the Beretta, their all pretty much the same. I have an M&P9 that does well. I'm just not a big fan of 9mm.

toyfj40 · Post by **toyfj40** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:24 pm

Hakaman wrote:The "M" stands for match grade, and that's what the barrel is.

trigger terms?

get specifics...
"M"atch-grade likely is specs for the chamber (not just the bore).
thus you'll be needing "M"atch-grade brass and "M"atch-grade dies
and "M"atch-grade bullets in order to have everything "M"atch !!

My Glock and I are "M"atched.
well... not precisely... I'm the weak-link...

"Triggernometry"
The angle of the trigger when cocked needs to be a compliment
of the oblique setting when the reflex-obtuse retaining screw is
supplemental to the equilateral congruence optimal position.

-- toy

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 2:34 pm

toyfj40 wrote:
My Glock and I are "M"atched.
well... not precisely... I'm the weak-link...

-- toy

I will have to go along with that statement Toy, you speak the truth.

greener · Post by **greener** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:06 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
toyfj40 wrote:
My Glock and I are "M"atched.
well... not precisely... I'm the weak-link...

-- toy
I will have to go along with that statement Toy, you speak the truth.

I'm the strong link, with just one finger pressed onto a moving trigger, I can make the muzzle go most anywhere.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:14 pm

greener wrote:
bearandoldman wrote:
toyfj40 wrote:
My Glock and I are "M"atched.
well... not precisely... I'm the weak-link...

-- toy
I will have to go along with that statement Toy, you speak the truth.
I'm the strong link, with just one finger pressed onto a moving trigger, I can make the muzzle go most anywhere.

But not necessarily where you intended it to go?

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:30 pm

Me and my Beretta might not be the perfet match, although I like the gun and it's history. It is also well made and easy to field strip, and I feel it's a nice looking gun as well. I also think there are better tiggers out there than the Beretta, at least for me. I have shot other guns and have been more successful then with the Beretta. I'll just continue to look for my second nine.
hm

toyfj40 · Post by **toyfj40** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:41 pm

don't over look the CZ-75

http://www.cz-usa.com/products_handguns_cz_standard.php

--toy

greener · Post by **greener** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:47 pm

toyfj40 wrote:don't over look the CZ-75

http://www.cz-usa.com/products_handguns_cz_standard.php

--toy

I had forgotten about that one. Very popular with the IDPA types around here. Nice shooter.

toyfj40 · Post by **toyfj40** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:57 pm

I don't want to be accused of omitting anything...

http://www.Hi-PointFirearms.com/handgun ... t_9mm.html

I've only fired a Hi-Pt once... and I think if I just
just fired the pistol and ignored the price...
I'd do just fine...

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:58 pm

It's a nice looking hg, but the trigger looks very similar to the Beretta M9. The Beretta seems to have alot of pretravel, creep, and overtravel. I am looking for a crisp trigger pull, without too much travel.
hm

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:27 pm

toyfj40 wrote:don't over look the CZ-75

http://www.cz-usa.com/products_handguns_cz_standard.php

--toy

Never shot a CZ but I did ride one once back in the mid 70's, think it was a 250.

toyfj40 · Post by **toyfj40** » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:11 pm

bearandoldman wrote:Never shot a CZ but I did ride one once
back in the mid 70's, think it was a 250.

this one looks about that old...
http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=qnSIoWZjgV8

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:50 am

toyfj40 wrote:
bearandoldman wrote:Never shot a CZ but I did ride one once
back in the mid 70's, think it was a 250.
this one looks about that old...
http://www.YouTube.com/watch?v=qnSIoWZjgV8

No, more like these with the shocks on each side of the swing arm, the one you showed was probably early 80's. Yamaha came out with the single shock under the seat in the very late 70's and all manufacturers changed their bikes too. The monoshock concept increased and improved the handling, along with longer travel front shocks the bikes rode and handled much better art high speed in rough terrain. The last 2 dirt bikes my oldest son and I rode were a 1971 Penton and a much altered by me Yamaha 1971 125 MX.

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:14 pm

It's amazing what the subject of "Desert Warrior" brings out. I think I like it.
hm

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