XDS 45acp

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:22 pm

Has anybody had any experience with this hg, it seems like a lot of bang for
a small package. My Kahr PM9 is only slightly smaller then this 45acp.

http://xdspistol.com/specs.php

bgreenea3 · Post by **bgreenea3** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:28 am

Good gun. My buddy carries one for his off duty/backup great shooting pistol with great punch.

Georgezilla · Post by **Georgezilla** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 2:46 am

Haka, the XDs .45 is AWESOME.

The XDs replaced the Kahr CM9 for me (economy PM9). I really didn't like design of the CM9 at all. I was not at all confident in the tiny amount of steel in the slide rails, I consider the striker block very weak compared to most other modern pistols, the mags didn't drop free, I feel like the disconnector design is a questionable. It's worth noting that I'm not a gunsmith and there are NO prevalent problems with any of the above things, just my opinions. Also, it's silly that Kahr made such a small pistol and put such a giant slide release on it. In general, I just wasn't confident in the CM9 design (or PM9).

On the contrary, the XDs .45 is solid, the design is excellent in my opinion. The trigger is of the type I like, very crisp, short reset (I consider the trigger better than most Glocks I've shot). it throws the mags out with authority. The stock sights are awesome (fiber front, double dot back). Everything I didn't like on the CM9, the XDs excels. Solid rails, solid striker block, solid disconnector design.

I only wish it was a .40S&W. They are suppose to be making a .40S&W XDs at some point.

bigfatdave · Post by **bigfatdave** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:40 am

Good gun, my wife wanted one and I like shooting it also. She even ran it in a pin shoot and was competitive in the scoring.

Sort of snappy
Really tight inside
Needs a very "enthusiastic" hand to rack in the first round, otherwise no issues at all with various 45acp loads I've run - if you try to chamber the first round casually, it will nosedive about half the time, you have to grip it & rip it, there's no room in the design for half-assed operation
Comes with a semi-useful paddle holster and the usual cheap mag carrier, and a comically oversize case
Nice sights
Very aggressive grip, you may want a light glove for extensive shooting

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:04 am

Needs a very "enthusiastic" hand to rack in the first round, otherwise no issues at all with various 45acp loads I've run - if you try to chamber the first round casually, it will nosedive about half the time, you have to grip it & rip it, there's no room in the design for half-assed operation

Good reports from you guys, sounds like a great carry gun, in 45acp no less.
That appears to be and issue with many pocket semi autos, they are built with
such tight tolerances that you have to be a little aggressive with them, especially
when racking the first round in.
Thanks,
haka

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:12 am

Kahr PM9
O/A L = 5.42"
Height = 4.0"
Slide W = .90"

XDS 45acp
O/A L = 6.3"
Height = 4.4"
Slide W = 1.0"

greener · Post by **greener** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:55 pm

Hakaman wrote:
Needs a very "enthusiastic" hand to rack in the first round, otherwise no issues at all with various 45acp loads I've run - if you try to chamber the first round casually, it will nosedive about half the time, you have to grip it & rip it, there's no room in the design for half-assed operation
Good reports from you guys, sounds like a great carry gun, in 45acp no less.
That appears to be and issue with many pocket semi autos, they are built with
such tight tolerances that you have to be a little aggressive with them, especially
when racking the first round in.
Thanks,
haka

I think I'd want an SD gun a bit looser. I've fired a few XD's and they have been pretty good. A .40 might be about as good as a .45 and carry a few more rounds.

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:21 pm

A .40 might be about as good as a .45 and carry a few more rounds.

As long as it's not over 10 rds it won't 'offend' the Pres.

Georgezilla · Post by **Georgezilla** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:21 am

Just don't take that evil 10-rounder to NY...

greener · Post by **greener** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:07 am

Georgezilla wrote:Just don't take that evil 10-rounder to NY...

Yep, better stick with the .45 and add a loop to your belt for scissors.

bigfatdave · Post by **bigfatdave** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:25 am

greener wrote:I think I'd want an SD gun a bit looser. I've fired a few XD's and they have been pretty good. A .40 might be about as good as a .45 and carry a few more rounds.

The holster says it fits .45, .40, and 9mm - so the fo-tay might be coming along. I don't think the gun is "too tight for defense", it runs perfectly when operated by ammunition, and just requires cranking in that first round with some conviction - which you do in a relaxed setting, barring combat reloads. I carry reloads, but they're as much for reloading after the panic or from behind solid cover as they are for some kind of combat run&gun. And the XD(S) is simply not designed to be anything but a concealed carry gun, it isn't really a combat pistol for the tactical operator to wade into the fray with.

I would say that the XD(S) is NOT a gun to wade into combat with, it is a gun to get the hell out of combat with, think "shoot&scoot" or "get off me gun"

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:25 am

I think I'd want an SD gun a bit looser.

My PM9 is wound tighter then a drum. I have a hard time racking the slide
open. I think the smaller the gun is the tight she's wound.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:42 am

Hakaman wrote:
I think I'd want an SD gun a bit looser.
My PM9 is wound tighter then a drum. I have a hard time racking the slide
open. I think the smaller the gun is the tight she's wound.

The lighter the slide the heavier the spring. My P3AT KelTec .380 is a bear too rack the slide

Downeaster · Post by **Downeaster** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:46 pm

greener wrote:
Georgezilla wrote:Just don't take that evil 10-rounder to NY...
Yep, better stick with the .45 and add a loop to your belt for scissors.

Can't do that, my Mom won't let me run with scissors...

charlesb · Post by **charlesb** » Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:23 pm

I've heard of one-handed shooters having a lug welded onto the side of the slide of an auto pistol, so that one can rack the slide one-handed. - The lug is placed upon the edge a solid object, like your Aunt Fazzy's antique Chippendale sideboard table for example, then just press down on the grip against the lug - and the slide comes right on back!

This might be a good add-on for hard-to-rack autos.

Lug is shaped like a .45 auto round sawed down the middle, lengthways, but is solid steel. It is usually welded on an inch or two back from the front of the slide. The rounded end goes toward the grip, the flat end is toward the muzzle.

The flat end could be checkered to give better purchase, but then you might end up marring the surface on Fazzy's priceless Chippendale!