TULA Primers

greener · Post by **greener** » Sat Mar 02, 2013 7:21 pm

Back in the good old days of September when the primer supply hadn't dried up, I bought some TULA SPP's. Just got around to reloading with them yesterday and today. When I bought them they were half the price of CCI primers. I reloaded .38 spl using the primers. Fired 70, or so rounds from a GP100, S&W M19, and 686. No failures to fire. They also fed better in my Lee Pro 100than Winchester primers and, probably, CCI. Color me Russian, if I can find any more.

Georgezilla · Post by **Georgezilla** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:16 am

greener wrote:Back in the good old days of September

This made me laugh...

Glad to hear the primers worked out for you. If they are less expensive and work, why not?

bgreenea3 · Post by **bgreenea3** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 3:19 am

I've seen wolf primers not Tula.... I believe they are the same factory though.

blue68f100 · Post by **blue68f100** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 8:59 am

Wolf had a problem with their SP, out of size spec (oversize) and Failure to fire. I avg 3-4 FTF/k with the SP Wolf. LP has not been a problem, or reported as such. With that said Tula is made in the same plant as Wolf. There has been a few problems reported with SP and LP but not the wide spread problems Wolf had. I for one would not use them in a critical application. Now there rifle primers have reported as being very very good, good enough for match shooting. For practice ammo I think there just fine.

Medicine Hat · Post by **Medicine Hat** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:50 pm

I'm not well schooled in 'who made what' brands, etc. I have however been using PMC (made in Russia) primers - both large pistol, and small pistol for several different calibers and loads. I started with them during the last "shortage" when it was all I could find in this area. Bottom line, I am still using them with no complaints.
Just my experiences.

bgreenea3 · Post by **bgreenea3** » Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:52 pm

I do believe PMC is Korean, not Russian.

greener · Post by **greener** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:33 am

I get some failures to fire with CCI and Winchester primers. I don't count the number but they are infrequent. I believe that has more to do with my press and the gun than it does with the primer. My M19 S&W seems more prone to have them, not so much that I ever tried fixing it. I don't shoot enough commercial ammo to have a feel for the FTF rate.

My Lee Pro doesn't feed Winchester primers well, they want to stick in the tray. I have no problems with CCI and had no problems with the TULA.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 7:57 am

I normally always use CCI primers and they deed OK in my Lee Pro 1000, set up for.35/.357, Recently bought a carrier assembly and dip plate and set it up for my .223, Small rifle primers feed even better because they are heavier.

blue68f100 · Post by **blue68f100** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:07 am

greener wrote:I get some failures to fire with CCI and Winchester primers. I don't count the number but they are infrequent. I believe that has more to do with my press and the gun than it does with the primer. My M19 S&W seems more prone to have them, not so much that I ever tried fixing it. I don't shoot enough commercial ammo to have a feel for the FTF rate.

My Lee Pro doesn't feed Winchester primers well, they want to stick in the tray. I have no problems with CCI and had no problems with the TULA.

FTFire can be many things beside the primer. The most common is the primer is not fully seated in the pocket. In this case the first firing seats the primer so it will go off the second time. Also if you have reduced the hammer springs to lighten the pull this is a problem too. If your have reduced hammer springs Federal primers are your best bet. But I recall the Lee says not to use them in the press due to there sensitivity, press may set them off the way the feed.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:55 am

`Yes, Lee does warn against using Federal primers, but no matter how you are seating your primer, either in a press or a hand tool, you are still pressing on them,Theoretically, they could go off while being seated by ant method. Guts with trigger job that have a very light pull, especially in a S&W revolver may need to use the Federal primers to be sure of ignition,They are about the most sensitive on the market'

blue68f100 · Post by **blue68f100** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:44 pm

Primers are not near as sensitive as people think. I've crushed primers seating them and have never have any go off. Primers are design to have the anvil hit the compound, seating them does not do this, requires a blow to the center.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 12:48 pm

blue68f100 wrote:Primers are not near as sensitive as people think. I've crushed primers seating them and have never have any go off. Primers are design to have the anvil hit the compound, seating them does not do this, requires a blow to the center.

right

bgreenea3 · Post by **bgreenea3** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 1:50 pm

I had one go off on seating, it went in the pocket weird and I ended up crushing it and boom. Glad my wife wasn't home or she probably would have had a heart attack.

Medicine Hat · Post by **Medicine Hat** » Mon Mar 04, 2013 3:09 pm

bgreenea3 wrote:I do believe PMC is Korean, not Russian.

I'm not sure. The boxes (bricks) that I have on hand have (Made in Russia) printed on the back, but they were bought in 2010.
I also have a bunch of Winchester, and CCI primers. With no instruments, I can't see than any one has an advantage. They all go "Bang".
Just my view from where I sit.

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