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I fired my 22A, PT1911, P90 and P22 today. Initial shot placement was an inch or so from the X at 11 o'clock. I could adjust this out with the red dot on the 22A and move the placement right with the adjustable sights on the P22. The .45's went there if I took what I believed to be a normal sight picture. I had to aim low right to place the shots on center. Seems to be something I've started recently and I did some thinking about trigger pushing and recoil anticipation. I was shooting with one hand, 15 yards.

Whatever was going on was catching. A pretty good shooter next to me was whaling on his rear sights because his rounds (two hand hold) were going about 11 o'clock. The firing line is a covered (top and back) shed with low front, darker on the inside. Sort of like shooting out of a culvert. The guy next was wondering if the relatively bright sunlight was playing with the sights.

I wonder if there is any validity to bright light making the sights look centered when they are not. Seems like a great excuse to have in the range bag. (blame the gun, blame the ammo, blame the bright light....)

You said initial shot placement. Is this the 1st shot on all of the guns? Or are all of the shots going there?

Maybe astigmatism problem.

May be reflected light did play some tricks. I always shoot better outside when it's overcast.

blue68f100 wrote:You said initial shot placement. Is this the 1st shot on all of the guns? Or are all of the shots going there?

Maybe astigmatism problem.

All guns were grouping there. Could be astigmatism, light or something I've started doing for some unknown reason.

Maybe try and use a rest and squeeze some off like a rifle, then maybe you can determine if its your hands or eyes. Also try to not extend your arms. instead hold the sights closer to your face and see if that changes anything. I dont know whats going on, but it doesn't hurt to try some different things and evaluate.

I never have any elevation problems but I tend to favor the left also.

May want to let someone else shoot it to see if it's the gun or your eyes.

May want to let someone else shoot it to see if it's the gun or your eyes(Thats a good idea!)

Mr. Nail wrote:May want to let someone else shoot it to see if it's the gun or your eyes(Thats a good idea!)

If I remember correctly, Greener's got Marty Feldman eyes!

R,
Bullseye

Bullseye wrote:

Mr. Nail wrote:May want to let someone else shoot it to see if it's the gun or your eyes(Thats a good idea!)

If I remember correctly, Greener's got Marty Feldman eyes!

R,
Bullseye

ROFLMAO

You may be dissing Marty Feldman.

It may be our bad elbow throwing your shots off......

bgreenea3 wrote:It may be our bad elbow throwing your shots off......

Left elbow has tendonitis and I'm shooting with my right hand. I think the Marty Feldman look might work better.

Saturday, before sight adjustments the 686 and M19 were a bit right and the GP100 was 11 o'clock. Think it is something to do with stance or alignment with one hand.

you don't have marty feldman's eyes.......you havve more of a neanderthal brow thing going, you have an ape-like brow..."shooting is so easy even a cave man can do it!"

The walking calluses on my knuckles get in the way.

...and you know I have a friend whos got a left dominate eye but, he's right handed. He didnt shoot well until he figured out he needed to shoot using his left eye.