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advise on p22

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 8:02 am
by Mr. Nail
This is Mr. Nail, new to the forum, I dont have any .22 pistols. I only have a long rifle. I've been looking at a p22 made by Walther for about a year now. It felt real nice in my hand at the gun store. Does anyone have one of these pistols or heard of any problems they might have? They're real short also so, I was wondering how accurate they are. I also dont know much about the quallity of Walther products either.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:39 am
by Downeaster
Don't have one, never seen one, so take the following with a LARGE grain of salt.

Across the three major firearms forums I visit regularly, I have consistently seen issues with the P22, primarily being VERY fussy about the ammo used. Most folks come across as disappointed in the weapon.

Based entirely on internet-based reading (and we all know if it's on the innerweb, it must be true...) and with ZERO personal experience, my impression is that there are much better .22's out there for the money.

HUGE Ruger fan myself, a MK III, 22/45 or a Single Six (Revolver) is always a good bet, and Browning's Buckmark is well respected.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:23 am
by HEADKNOCKER
I agree..
I "HAD" a Walther P22 & could get it to work sometimes if I fed it CCI Minimags & kept it spotless..
It's barrel is paper thin with a sleeve & a cap nut..

BUY a RUGER

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 10:34 am
by Mr. Nail
Thanks. Thats what I needed to know. Ive never delt w/ Walther and the p series is the only ones that cuaght my eye. The rest of them look like they come from outer space. I am however wanting something w/ a slide action maybe like a Sig Misquito . What kinda reveiws are they getting? Or, what might you recommend.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:54 am
by bigfatdave
Walther is great … but the p22 is a Umarex product with Walther's name on the side.

I have one, and it has limited usefulness as a trainer, and I've heard that Walther/Umarex are putting out better ones now … waltherforums and rimfirecentral have more details.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:57 am
by Downeaster
Mr. Nail wrote:Thanks. Thats what I needed to know. Ive never delt w/ Walther and the p series is the only ones that cuaght my eye. The rest of them look like they come from outer space. I am however wanting something w/ a slide action maybe like a Sig Misquito . What kinda reveiws are they getting? Or, what might you recommend.
Unfortunately, much the same reports on the Mosquito. I have a link to a multi-page post on the subject on the Sig forum.

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:02 pm
by Downeaster
http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/ ... m/54410021

Thread about Mosquitos on Sig Forum

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:15 pm
by Mr. Nail
I didn't even get half way through the first paragraph and I was turned off by the Sig. Is it something about .22's w/ slides?

Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 12:20 pm
by Downeaster
Mr. Nail wrote:I didn't even get half way through the first paragraph and I was turned off by the Sig. Is it something about .22's w/ slides?
Not sure. The S&W 41 and various High Standard target models are the Cadillacs of .22 autos, and they're all slide-type, as is the Browning Buckmark.

Maybe the polymer technology?

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:42 am
by Mr. Nail
I was looking into Ruger before I seen the p22 so thats what I'm gonna go w/. I was just wanting something to take out hunting a little more compact during small game season . I carry a centerfire the rest of the year. If I get a MKIII I guess the shortest barrells I've seen are 4" right? I have a P89DC in a 9mm made by Ruger and its one of the best shooting guns I've ever shot. I've had it two yrs. now and put at least a dozen boxes of shells through w/ no malfunctions so I dont have a problem w/ Ruger. If anyone has had a problem w/ Ruger rimfire guns I'd like to hear about em before I make a purchase though.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:55 am
by bigfatdave
A 4 inch 22/45 is fairly small (not p22 small, of course) and should give you much better accuracy/reliability.
The traditional grip-angle Rugers are only a little more weight, so buy whatever fits your hand best.
And don't turn your nose up at a used mkII or mkIII, they're tough enough to be safely bought used, if you ask me.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:40 pm
by Mr. Nail
Thanks bigfatdave, I just prefer a new one cuase I'll know how its been treated and by whom. I've also found w/ gunstores today, one price is usually close enough to the other. Half these guys a come off that price after you tell em more about the guns than they know about em.lol

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 4:47 pm
by bigfatdave
Nothing wrong with new, of course ... although the new mkIII tends to be pretty tight, so don't be that guy complaining about how hard to take down/rebuild his mkIII is.

Also, every rental range I've ever seen has a few Ruger .22 pistols to rent, if you can, get some trigger time on a mkIII 22/45 and a mkIII traditional.

Dr Bullseye here has some of the best maintenance pages imaginable right here for care, feeding, cleaning, and upgrading the Ruger pistols - which are worth the trouble unlike the Umarex p22.

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:26 pm
by greener
I've had a P22 for about 3 years. It is a cute, fun, little plinker that I can't shoot with consistent accuracy. I've had to polish parts, particularly the trigger bar ears because they gouged the zinc allow slide. The sights are plastic and not very good. You get three heights of front sights and the rear sights adjust for windage, sort of. I think it would be better as either a fixed-sight pistol or one with real adjustable sights. After all, they are going fo $350-$400 around here.

I haven't had any problems with the pistol being picky with ammo although it shoots federal 36gr hp or 40gr sv's best.

My guess is that about 2/3's of the folks who own P22's love them.

If I were going to have one .22 pistol and my choice was between the P22 and a Ruger, I'd do the Ruger without a second thought.

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:04 pm
by Mr. Nail
Thanks .