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Post by Jack D » Fri May 01, 2009 11:37 am

Son delivered the 22/45 last Friday, Scope was delivered FedEx next day. Because the 22/45 was not drilled and tapped for scope, I ordered the Weigand mount. The rings that came with the scope were not QD's and were quite high, I ordered new rings. Mount and Rings came in yesterday. With all in hand I ran.....well, walked fast out to the shop and put it all together. Bore sighted to get it on the paper. Will test fire it today. Still need a filler screw for the front sight screw hole.

I'm not really please with the stock trigger. A full 1/8" pre-travel, then after sear is engaged it seems forever before it actually breaks. I'm sure a VQ sear is in order. Not sure about the trigger. Is the VQ trigger better than drilling and tapping the stock trigger for adjustments? I'd hate to spend money for something I can do myself, but I have no experience with the VQ trigger. Suggestions?

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Post by Georgezilla » Fri May 01, 2009 4:47 pm

Looks purty. 1/8" pre-travel on a stock ruger trigger is actually pretty good.

You may not want to tap the factory trigger. If you ever send the pistol to Ruger for work you have to send it with unmodified factory parts or your warranty is void. And just the same the same, should you have to send it to ruger, if you have after market parts installed remember to replace them with the factory parts. So if you do tap the trigger be sure you have an extra.

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Post by Jack D » Fri May 01, 2009 5:21 pm

Georgezilla wrote:Looks purty. 1/8" pre-travel on a stock ruger trigger is actually pretty good.

You may not want to tap the factory trigger. If you ever send the pistol to Ruger for work you have to send it with unmodified factory parts or your warranty is void. And just the same the same, should you have to send it to ruger, if you have after market parts installed remember to replace them with the factory parts. So if you do tap the trigger be sure you have an extra.
Thanks for the advice. I hadn't thought about that. Maybe I just need to get used to the slack.

Just fired the first clip. 6 rounds (on a rest) at 12' to sight in (didn't need to change anything), then four rounds two hand hold from 32', no rest. Results below. I'm happy.

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Post by greener » Fri May 01, 2009 9:10 pm

Looking good.

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Post by Bullseye » Sun May 03, 2009 1:41 pm

Have no fear, if you send the pistol back to Ruger with modified parts in it they will just take those out and replace them with factory originals.

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Post by Georgezilla » Sun May 03, 2009 2:00 pm

Bullseye wrote:Have no fear, if you send the pistol back to Ruger with modified parts in it they will just take those out and replace them with factory originals.

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So if Ruger receives the pistol with new or modified parts they will still honor the warranty? If memory serves the manual states that if you disassemble the pistol past the field stripping stage by anyone other than Ruger the warrant is void. To get VQ parts or to tap a trigger I figured Ruger would assume that someone other than Ruger was responsible for the changes.

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Post by Bullseye » Sun May 03, 2009 2:24 pm

The Ruger manuals have been changed over the years, so I went over to the online manuals to see if their policy has been changed recently. It still says that any modified or custom parts will not be returned from service repairs. Also customers can purchase and install parts that are not asterisked and replacing these parts properly are the responsibility of the user.

Return for service is one reason why I advocate that folks save their factory original parts for reinstallation in the event of a firearm's return for factory service. Don't send in a VQ trigger or an Exact Edge extractor because the pistol will not return with these parts.

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Post by Jack D » Sun May 03, 2009 3:42 pm

Very good to know. Thanks for the heads up. Still need a filler screw where the front sight was. Does anyone know if the 6/48 filler screws (scope mount) will fit? The standard #6 thread is 6/32 and 6/40. 6/48 might be hard to find locally. I don't have a way to measure the screw that came out of the front sight, but suspect it is 6/48.
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Post by Georgezilla » Sun May 03, 2009 4:00 pm

You are correct, Bullseye. The part I was thinking of is under the field stripping section of the rule book. It says "Further disassembly should be undertaken only by the factory.", I just added another sentence in there for who knows what reason :P

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Post by Bullseye » Mon May 04, 2009 6:44 am

The Ruger 22 Auto's front sight screw is a 6-40 tpi screw not 6-48.

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Post by Jack D » Mon May 04, 2009 11:26 am

Bullseye wrote:The Ruger 22 Auto's front sight screw is a 6-40 tpi screw not 6-48.

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Thank you, Bullseye. I should be able to find a black set screw that size locally to fill the hole and keep the threads clean. A 6/48 would have been a different matter, I believe.
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Post by Curmudgeon » Mon May 04, 2009 3:41 pm

Bullseye wrote:Have no fear, if you send the pistol back to Ruger with modified parts in it they will just take those out and replace them with factory originals.

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Will they keep the modded parts or return them?
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Post by Jack D » Mon May 04, 2009 5:14 pm

I just ordered a VQ sear, extractor and disconnect link. I didn't order the trigger...not yet anyhow. Shooting about four mags and had three jams. Thanks to this site, I know (I think) how to fix it. The mag. clearance is right (according to another thread on this site) so the extractor must be at fault. This piece has had only about 100 rounds fired from it and it has jammed like this at least 6 times. I'm hoping the extractor will fix it Obviously, it is not ejecting the case clear.

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Post by Bullseye » Mon May 04, 2009 6:12 pm

I call that a double feed jam. It is caused by the spent case coming off of the extractor claw prematurely. If the case comes off the hook before it can positively strike the ejector then the case will not clear the breech and get caught by the successive round feeding into the chamber. If the magazine's feed lips are not knocking the case off then the extractor is failing to hold the case securely. A new VQ Exact Edge extractor should remedy the situation for you.

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Post by Jack D » Mon May 04, 2009 8:00 pm

Bullseye wrote:I call that a double feed jam. It is caused by the spent case coming off of the extractor claw prematurely. If the case comes off the hook before it can positively strike the ejector then the case will not clear the breech and get caught by the successive round feeding into the chamber. If the magazine's feed lips are not knocking the case off then the extractor is failing to hold the case securely. A new VQ Exact Edge extractor should remedy the situation for you.

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Pretty much what I was thinking. I did put an empty case in the chamber, closed the bolt, then pulled it back just enough for the casing to clear the chamber. I then touched the case with the tip of a screwdriver and it fell out. I guessed the hook was not holding very well. As stated earlier, I have one (VQ) ordered.
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