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Mark III 22/45 DS Put together wrong.

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:27 pm
by Curmudgeon
Like the title says, I did a detailed strip and cleaned my gun (third time) and I put it together wrong. I just dumped all the parts into a pile because I'm a cocky old mechanic and didn't catch one detail.

The detent balls and springs were swapped. The weaker, softer spring goes forward in the hold open mechanism, while the stronger, more positive spring goes in the safe/fire arm.

What happens when you swap them like a dummy? Oh Oh Mr. Cotter, I know.

For one, the safe fire gets real easy to shift, possible shiftable into the fire position by accident. The bolt no longer stays open after the last round, and for some reason I can't explain, (yet) the gun is not cocked on the last round of the magazine. You have to pull the bolt back about 1/2 - 3/4 inch and let it snap closed to fire the last round.

Live and learn huh?

Don't laugh at the greenhorn guys, I'll get up to speed soon.

On another topic, my shoot today was the first shoot with line-less trifocals. I must be an oddball because I think it was an improvement over lined trifocals. I was told to expect sea sickness and all kinds of weird things but none of it was true.

A almost undetectable nod of the head locks in focus from the front sight to the 25 yard bull and back again. Like the President said, I Have A Gift.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:29 am
by Bullseye
As I have aged, I recently found it necessary to wear bi-focal glasses. Like you, I find the no-line lenses are far more compatible with shooting pistol. Unfortunately I don't feel that same way about highpower rifle. In that discipline it is not easy, or comfortable, when in position to shift head position to get an optimum sight picture out of your lenses.

R,
Bullseye

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:10 am
by smokey
I also wear bifocals. I find that they help a great deal when shooting a handgun but I still don't find it necessary to wear them when shooting a scoped rifle. Maybe it is because I am looking through a scope with magnification? I'm not sure.

Smokey

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:04 am
by greener
Been wearing the progressive bifocals for a couple decades. I didn't adjust well to the lined types. I still can't get over the head bobs needed for looking over the bifocals for shooting.

Re: Mark III 22/45 DS Put together wrong.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:16 am
by SKnight
Curmudgeon wrote:Like the title says, I did a detailed strip and cleaned my gun (third time) and I put it together wrong. I just dumped all the parts into a pile because I'm a cocky old mechanic and didn't catch one detail.

The detent balls and springs were swapped. The weaker, softer spring goes forward in the hold open mechanism, while the stronger, more positive spring goes in the safe/fire arm.

What happens when you swap them like a dummy? Oh Oh Mr. Cotter, I know.

For one, the safe fire gets real easy to shift, possible shiftable into the fire position by accident. The bolt no longer stays open after the last round, and for some reason I can't explain, (yet) the gun is not cocked on the last round of the magazine. You have to pull the bolt back about 1/2 - 3/4 inch and let it snap closed to fire the last round.

Live and learn huh?

Don't laugh at the greenhorn guys, I'll get up to speed soon.
Idiot.

(Says the guy who's also a mechanic and did the exact same thing. Ever tried to get an improperly assembled firearm back apart after a failed test fire? Ask me for tips. It involves long picks and about three hands.)

Glad to know I'm not alone! :wink:

Re: Mark III 22/45 DS Put together wrong.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:18 pm
by Jack D
SKnight wrote: Idiot.

(Says the guy who's also a mechanic and did the exact same thing. Ever tried to get an improperly assembled firearm back apart after a failed test fire? Ask me for tips. It involves long picks and about three hands.)

Glad to know I'm not alone! :wink:
Kinda like changing the rear spark plugs in v6 transaxel? Break your arm in three places.

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:07 pm
by manic mechanic
Haven't posted in a long time, but with all this old mechanics and bifocal talk, I resemble those remarks. Just shot the ole 22/45 a couple weeks ago and my son really out shot me. Getting better all the time though. I did out shoot him with a 92fs compact I just traded into though, so he doesn't show me up everytime. I need to spend more time here!