MKIII cleaning

greener · Post by **greener** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:24 pm

My biggest problem comes from the residue left by .22 rounds and the lube on some ammuntion in the chamber on the bolt face and on the bolt. I haven't seen much in the way of barrel problems. I'll start getting a few feed, fire or ejection problems. I went from stopping by the workbench for a cleaning each time I fired the weapon to about every third firing (500-700 rounds). Seems that if I wait longer, I start having problems. I'd rather not find out the pistol needs to be cleaned at the range. It is probably better to do it on a rounds fired frequency, with type of ammo, but I haven't gotten the round tuit for shooting logs. Funny, I can keep extremely detailed logs for vehicles, but can't seem to get up the energy to do it for firearms. I can tell you when I changed oil or windshield wiper blades in my 93 Ranger for the past 13 years, but the number of rounds fired from my Hunter is just a guess.

greener · Post by **greener** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:43 pm

bearandoldman wrote:
Blindpig wrote:
greener wrote: Len, shooting the BG with a bullet from a dirty gun? You might do some unintentional serious damage like that.
Len's theory is that if his round doesn't kill the BG, the blood poisoning from his filthy pistol will do the job eventually!
It may help, but 3 in the shirt pocket should get the job done quickly, May have to see if I can get some rustty bullets or somthing like that. Whatever is required to get the job done.

If the gun still shoots, it ain't broke. so it really don't need to be fixed.

According to some "experts" the correct answer in Virginia is "Officer, I was just trying to stop him." I suppose three in the shirt pocket qualifies as just trying to stop him. Here's hoping none of us get past the theory.

Since I started reading this forum, my ideas on how often to clean have been changed.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:51 pm

In Michigan you can shoot as long as you feel you or other innocents are threatened with death or great bodily harm, if the BG happens to die in the process, that is his problem, the threat has been stopped.
My range owner and self defense expert was involve in more that 10 shootings when he was on the Deeetroi police and that is his opinion also.

toyfj40 · Post by **toyfj40** » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:02 pm

I presume there are some among us that have "been there" and
likely best to keep it private... I hope that none of us find ourselves
in "that situation"... but we need to be "aware/prepared".

I don't mean to be silly, but the often quoted item comes to mind
"I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six..."
I've heard the evening news most days of my life (not as many as
OldMan, but getting close --grin) and only in these recent years
that I've spent time with this 'gun hobby' have I reflected on
just what maybe/might happen someday and how would I respond,
as I have no fantasy that I will have any extra "seconds" to think
or respond... it will be something immediate and reflexive...

so, I'd best practice and practice because if/when it ever happens
I'll only have a moment to do what I practiced...

I recall a news item several months ago (perhaps a year+),
somewhere in the US, a home was broken into... and the
mother was being attacked by the "BG"... a teenage son
reacted and 'got the gun' and shot the intruder (I don't recall
if it was fatal or not, but it ended the attack)... and by the time
the police arrived... the son had cleaned and returned the gun
to it's proper place as he had been taught...

cleaning: I don't "clean" my firearms very often, but I am
meticulous about "inspections"... and while I'm inspecting
I often will take a moment to remove a little crud or lube-a-little...

ya'll have a good evening.
-- toy

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:17 pm

Instead of starting yet another topic, I figured I'd just add to this one.

I pulled my Ruger apart just now...and had the disassembly page up. Wow, that made life easier! The hardest part for me was removing the main spring. That detend must have caught on something on the back side of the barrel or bolt. After a little pulling, I was able to remove it. After that, bolt came right out and the barrel came off the frame.

Reassembly was pretty straight forward following the directions here. I think everything is good to go! I was able to cock the gun and dry fire it a few times. I assume I did everything right?

I noticed the patches I have are difficult to get down the bore. Even after cutting them and just wrapping them once around the rod, I could not really insert them into the bore. Since I only put 500 rounds of copper washed Federals through there, I'm not that concerned. I guess I should pick up a nylon brush for the future though.

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 5:25 pm

What are you using to hold the patches? I use a brass cleaning jag made for .22 caliber barrels. Makes holding the patch much easier, plus the jag forces the patch into the barrel grooves.

R,
Bullseye

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:09 pm

Bullseye,
I have this kit: http://www.deweyrods.com/cgi-bin/ccp5/c ... =HOME:KITS

It looks pretty similar. I believe it's called a "patch loop"?

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:17 pm

I have a similar rod in my gun box. Those Dewey kit offer accessories for sale online. They have the jags for sale separately.

R,
Bullseye

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:24 pm

The top one in the pic you posted is what's in my kit. I assume (you know what they say about "assuming...LOL!) you wrap the patch around that and then push it down the bore? Even with putting it through the loop and wrapping it once, it was difficult to get down the bore. I went maybe 1/4" and just stopped.

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:34 pm

I use the style like the third one down. That one you stick one end on the point and then wrap the rest around the shaft. The pull through ones I push the rod all the way through, then fasten the patch and pull the rod back through the barrel. That method keeps the patch from binding on the shaft.

R,
Bullseye

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:49 pm

Thanks Bullseye. I'll have to ad the to my list along with a nylon bore brush.

Song Dawg · Post by **Song Dawg** » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:45 pm

Since we're showing our tools, pardon the expression, here's mine but mostly for .22-250. Sometimes some of my shootin bud's guns gets bad enough for the full monty.

SD

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 8:15 am

That's a cool setup in the last pic. Do they sell round patches like that?

Song Dawg · Post by **Song Dawg** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:49 pm

Glenn, they're called cotton buttons. Work very well but they don't give 'em away. I've actually washed several as you would a bore mop. They've held up fairly well.

It's a special jag too. I use it mostly on the .22-250 but it good for all .22 appications.

SD

Glenn · Post by **Glenn** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:25 am

Cool, thanks for the info! I appreciate you guys helping me out. I'm such a newb.