New member saying hi, and wanting to upgrade a Ruger Hunter?

Post by **Bullseye** » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:30 am

You can use either spring with the sear. They are both the same.

R,
Bullseye

novakane · Post by **novakane** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:17 am

I got it all back together, but I am still getting some jambing. I agree with what I have read here in that this gun should have came from the factory this way.

The new round gets jammed on the old spent case when the new one is feeding into the chamber. I am still kinda not sure on how to fix this issue, although I've been reading up on your(Bullseye) website on the possible fixes for it. I am still alittle bit confused on what to actually do, but I will get to that in the next couple of days.

Thanks for your help so far!

I will be using this post to determine my issue; http://www.guntalk-online.com/forum/vie ... hp?p=68#68

smokey · Post by **smokey** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:40 pm

When I installed my VQ extractor I also did the mag mod as seen in this link. I haven't had a single FTE since.
http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2008 ... tweak.html

Post by **Bullseye** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 12:40 pm

Did you install the VQ extractor?

Do you have magazine clearance issues with the ejector pin?

R,
Bullseye

novakane · Post by **novakane** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:06 pm

Thanks for the link smokey!

Yes I did change the extractor, trigger, sear, and yes the magazine looks to be alittle high. I just pulled apart the magazine release and didn't see any issues there, although I did file about .006 thousandths off of it. It looks like I will have to mod the mags to make this gun work to it's best, as sending it to ruger is not an option that I want to pursue.

I can tell the extractor is in there as the shell seems to fly further upon exiting if that makes sense.

blue68f100 · Post by **blue68f100** » Mon Jun 29, 2009 2:17 pm

I had 1 magazine that was sitting high that came with my MKIII. It made the mag not release when I pushed the release. Did not make any difference if the bolt was locked back or not. One worked just fine. I took a small file and hit the catch on the magazine a couple of times and all worked fine. My guess I that I removed less than 0.010" to make it work.

So my question if you have one that is difficult to release or install, it's probably the magazine catch. If it's setting to high it interferes with the ejector. It will also knock the empty brass off the extractor before it gets to the ejector. You need that gap as Bullseye said to check.

novakane · Post by **novakane** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:24 pm

Well I rounded the rear corners of one magazine, and ran about 80 rounds through it with only one issue. First I didn't have any jambing or stove pipes, so that must be fixed. I don't know what you call this, but the bullet wouldn't fire. The rim of the brass was struck but the round didn't fire. So I take that as a bad bullet? I even tried the same round again and no go.

Would the bullet be the case here or is there some other component in the gun that maybe changed that could possibly correct this? Btw....It was a winchester expert ammo that I was using. The ammo seems to be very cheesy too, as most of the lead in the brass seems to be loose. The cci ammo I have from walmart appears to be better then the winchester stuff.

Also, I've been searching this site for instructions on taking the magazine apart and can't seem to find it again. Can someone point me in the right direction there please?

And guys, Thank You very much for the help as without your guidence I would be cussing this darn thing........lol

Mike

blue68f100 · Post by **blue68f100** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:44 pm

You probably had a round that did not have the primer. I have heard of several reports on bulk ammo. Federal 510 has seamed to have the most duds, some report as many as 30 in a box of 550. Even 1 on CCI which is normally works 100% of the time. If you pull the bullet you can find out. Then look inside after you dump the powder. Should look like a glue in the rim, my guess is that it's clean. My guess there are producing ammo faster than QC can keep up, All goes out "it will sell".

For the Magazine, there is a Pin that must be pushed in about 1/4 before the base plate will slide off. I suggest you do this in side a ziploc bag, to prevent the spring from launching.

I landed some of the WW expert 22 ammo last week. I bought 5 bricks because this is the first time I found bulk in 2 mo. If I get a bunch of duds I will keep them and notify Winchester. My guess they will send you a minimum of 1 box/50. I had some Magtec Brass that I bought new and ever on of them were 2-4 short of 100. Contacting them with the lots numbers the sent me another 100count full bag, free.

arizona-hermit · Post by **arizona-hermit** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 12:15 am

Greetings novakane....

Are you that Chevy driving Chinese-American that had his own TV show many years ago...

No wait, that cannot be... he died some time back.

Welcome aboard just the same.

Enjoy!

smokey · Post by **smokey** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:55 am

blue68f100 wrote:You probably had a round that did not have the primer. I have heard of several reports on bulk ammo. Federal 510 has seamed to have the most duds, some report as many as 30 in a box of 550. Even 1 on CCI which is normally works 100% of the time. If you pull the bullet you can find out. Then look inside after you dump the powder. Should look like a glue in the rim, my guess is that it's clean. My guess there are producing ammo faster than QC can keep up, All goes out "it will sell".

For the Magazine, there is a Pin that must be pushed in about 1/4 before the base plate will slide off. I suggest you do this in side a ziploc bag, to prevent the spring from launching.

I landed some of the WW expert 22 ammo last week. I bought 5 bricks because this is the first time I found bulk in 2 mo. If I get a bunch of duds I will keep them and notify Winchester. My guess they will send you a minimum of 1 box/50. I had some Magtec Brass that I bought new and ever on of them were 2-4 short of 100. Contacting them with the lots numbers the sent me another 100count full bag, free.

FWIW I have far less FTF with the Federal 510s than I do with the Remington Goldens. Some reports say that Remington has improved their quality but I haven't tried any lately. I have a hard time getting past the issues I have already had with it.

greener · Post by **greener** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:26 am

I've had zero FTF's with RGB's for at least two years.

Haven't shot any. I tried three boxes, No's 2 and 3 because I figured No 1 was just a bad lot and they couldn't be that bad. I just had too many problems with the bullets I tried to get any more.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:30 am

greener wrote:I've had zero FTF's with RGB's for at least two years.

Haven't shot any. I tried three boxes, No's 2 and 3 because I figured No 1 was just a bad lot and they couldn't be that bad. I just had too many problems with the bullets I tried to get any more.

Me too. no GB problems in over 3 years, will not even pick up a box of them.

greener · Post by **greener** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:33 am

blue68f100 wrote:You probably had a round that did not have the primer. I have heard of several reports on bulk ammo. Federal 510 has seamed to have the most duds, some report as many as 30 in a box of 550. Even 1 on CCI which is normally works 100% of the time. If you pull the bullet you can find out. Then look inside after you dump the powder. Should look like a glue in the rim, my guess is that it's clean. My guess there are producing ammo faster than QC can keep up, All goes out "it will sell".

For the Magazine, there is a Pin that must be pushed in about 1/4 before the base plate will slide off. I suggest you do this in side a ziploc bag, to prevent the spring from launching.

I landed some of the WW expert 22 ammo last week. I bought 5 bricks because this is the first time I found bulk in 2 mo. If I get a bunch of duds I will keep them and notify Winchester. My guess they will send you a minimum of 1 box/50. I had some Magtec Brass that I bought new and ever on of them were 2-4 short of 100. Contacting them with the lots numbers the sent me another 100count full bag, free.

I haven't had many problems with the Fed Value packs. Hope that keeps up because I just bought 4 boxes.

The Xpert22's (white box) seemed to be pretty good. My Buck Mark loves them. The only problem is that they seem to crud up the Buck Mark chamber faster than other ammo. The Xpert22 HV (gray box) shoots pretty well, but my Rugers seem to develop some feeding problems after 30-50 rounds. Very few FTF's.

novakane · Post by **novakane** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:37 am

arizona-hermit wrote:Greetings novakane....

Are you that Chevy driving Chinese-American that had his own TV show many years ago...

No wait, that cannot be... he died some time back.

Welcome aboard just the same.

Enjoy!

Lol to the chinese tv show dude.......I am actually american although I am mostly pissed at my corupt government. It's funny I have a 66 chevy II nova and I have to replace some body panels with imitation chinese panels that will not fit. It's amazing how we have out sourced all of our industrial skills.....and it will only get worse with this cap and trade carbon tax bullcrap.

Mike

Post by **Bullseye** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:39 am

You could have a bad round. They do happen from time to time. The best thing to do is try and fire it again by rotating it slightly in the chamber. Sometimes the priming compound doesn't completely fill the rim of a cartridge.

Here's the mag disassembly picture:

R,
Bullseye

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