Model 41 dry fire

swm41 · Post by **swm41** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:22 pm

Hi to all. I am a first time post to this forum and would like to say that I am impressed with the amount of solid,factual info on this site. I am half way through my first season of gallery match bullseye and am a better shooter because of info and links found here. My question today is, whats the rule on dry firing a model 41. I can't find any 22 cal snap caps that can be used repeatedly. Can the 41 be dry fired without damage. Thanks in advance

Post by **Bullseye** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:44 pm

The Model 41 has a firing pin stop in the slide. It can be dry fired without damaging the breech face of the barrel assembly. As with a lot of things, this dry firing should be conducted in moderation, as too much dry firing can either stretch the firing pin or could cause the stop pin to fracture from stress. You can use spent cases as a buffer for the firing pin for repetitive dry firing sessions or make one of these trash can snap caps http://www.flat5.net/trashcansnapcap.html

R,
Bullseye

swm41 · Post by **swm41** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:01 pm

As usual great info. Think I might try carving something out of a piece of nylon cutting board. Thanks agian and i'll see ya round the forum

lund329 · Post by **lund329** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:08 am

Bullseye wrote:The Model 41 has a firing pin stop in the slide. It can be dry fired without damaging the breech face of the barrel assembly. As with a lot of things, this dry firing should be conducted in moderation, as too much dry firing can either stretch the firing pin or could cause the stop pin to fracture from stress. You can use spent cases as a buffer for the firing pin for repetitive dry firing sessions or make one of these trash can snap caps http://www.flat5.net/trashcansnapcap.html

R,
Bullseye

Hi Bullseye... Regarding the same subject, how does the Ruger MKIII stack up to dry firing? Thanks in advance for any comments and/or suggestions.

blue68f100 · Post by **blue68f100** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:20 am

The MK's have a FP stop pin too. But if your going to do a lot of dry fire I would remove the FP.

Post by **Bullseye** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:23 am

Dry firing a Ruger 22 Auto is nearly the same. It has a firing pin stop to protect the breech face but I only advise limited dry firing with it. The stop pin in the Ruger is much more susceptible to damage. I have seen several Ruger stop pins broken and or damaged due to excessive dry firing. The good news is the Ruger's firing pin is very easy to remove. Without the firing pin in the bolt the pistol is good to dry fire to your heart's content. Then when your through, simply reinstall the firing pin back in the bolt.

R,
Bullseye

lund329 · Post by **lund329** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:30 pm

Much thanks to both of you for the insight....Ken.

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:14 pm

I made the trash can snap cap the other day and it works like a charm, thanks for the pointer!

Post by **Bullseye** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:13 am

I'm always happy to help a fellow shooter!

R,
Bullseye

Nick · Post by **Nick** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:10 am

Note on the trash can snap cap: The trash cans my local office supply store had are thinner plastic than the author's deluxe model, and my snap cap broke at one of the angles in the U-shape after a while. I can make at least a hundred more for the $4.95 or whatever I spent on the bin, but do listen for a change in sound as the author suggests so you can hear if it breaks.

The broken piece in mine was hiding under the hammer, so look there if you can't find it.

bebloomster · Post by **bebloomster** » Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:17 pm

Bought some of the Pachmayr 22LR Snap Caps as their product description indicates they can be used repeatedly.... don't waste your money. The rim would break off at the first firing pin strike. Tried 3 of them and all three broke on the first use. Guess what is getting returned.

stork · Post by **stork** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:21 am

First off, WAY TO GO!!!!
Most shooters don't realize the value of dry firing. I maintain you should dry fire 10 times for every live round you send downrange.

Second, go to your local builders supply store and pick up some #4 drywall anchors.
1. They are the same overall size as a 22 round.
2. Are made of plastic and cushion the firing pin upon firing.
3. Normally cycle through your magazine.
4. Inexpensive.
5. Don't damage anything.
6. did I mention they're inexpensive.

I've used these for my Hi Standards (big no-no dry firing those) for years. I used to use the 22 dummies from Brownells, but they don't last very long and are expensive.

FWIW

bebloomster · Post by **bebloomster** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 11:30 am

Hey Stork... thanks for the tip on the dry wall anchors... will definitely pick some up on my next trip to the hardware store. My plan was to put a few of the dummies in every Slow Fire magazine during practice. The idea really did work out great, just not the dummies. Even had one get pushed down the bore a bit when the rim broke off. I pulled the slide back to try to eject it and the next round in the magazine pushed it on in. Fortunately I had a cleaning rod in my shooting box so it wasn't that much of a problem to clear it. My Slow Fire targets are hovering in the mid-80's would like to get them up to the low 90's. Currently can generally keep all 10 shots in the black, working on keeping then all in the 8-ring. Our Indoor League has gone to 2 nights a week now so shoot a full 900 match on Sunday and Tuesday then try to get out to the range for a little practice on Thursday morning. Seems to be doing some good.