my first handgun
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my first handgun
I just turned 21 2 months ago and am looking to get a handgun here soon, but i am a broke redneck and need a affordable one anyone got any ideas on the type and caliber? i want a handcannon btw
dropped on request 1/7/12
Looked into the Alaskan model of Ruger's Redhawk? In .44 mag or .454 Casull. Best "hand cannon" I know of. None of them will be cheap.
http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedh ... odels.html
http://www.ruger.com/products/superRedh ... odels.html
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Based on the phrasing of your question, all I can glean is that you might just like a cheap noisemaker, in which case I don't think any one here could offer you advice
I agree with Haka, we would need specifics of the intended use for the pistol. Do you intend on competing with it at all, do you want something that's got a lot of aftermarket parts, these are things that we would need to know.
I agree with Haka, we would need specifics of the intended use for the pistol. Do you intend on competing with it at all, do you want something that's got a lot of aftermarket parts, these are things that we would need to know.
if you want a gun that is over heavy, cheap, has a horrible trigger, aned brick like ergonomics, the highpoint is touugh to beat. my brother in law bought a hi point 380 as his first semi auto about 10 years ago... it shot well enough, accuracy was decent, but it was waaaay to big and heavy for wht it was. I used to think they would blow up in your face due to the chaepness.... but I found this series of videos on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXm ... 7PDBPfKV4s
that changed my mind....
I think you would be better off for a cheapie first handgun with a smith and wesson sigma or SD 9mm
that changed my mind....
I think you would be better off for a cheapie first handgun with a smith and wesson sigma or SD 9mm
"Courage is being scared to death... and saddling up anyway."
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Taurus Millenium Pro. Going around here for $320. Pretty good feel. Also, some of the Phillipine 1911's go at a reasonable price.
The trouble with having a handcannon comes in feeding them if you shoot a lot. 9mm handguns aren't quite as expensive to feed.
For a first handgun I like .22's such as a Ruger or S&W22A. Accurate shooters and inexpensive to shoot. Of course I like .22's and always carry at least one to the range. Usually 3 or more.
The trouble with having a handcannon comes in feeding them if you shoot a lot. 9mm handguns aren't quite as expensive to feed.
For a first handgun I like .22's such as a Ruger or S&W22A. Accurate shooters and inexpensive to shoot. Of course I like .22's and always carry at least one to the range. Usually 3 or more.
The Hi-Point .45 I fired some years ago fired every time and did the one-ragged-hole thing at 17 yards. Not a bad shooter.bgreenea3 wrote:if you want a gun that is over heavy, cheap, has a horrible trigger, aned brick like ergonomics, the highpoint is touugh to beat. my brother in law bought a hi point 380 as his first semi auto about 10 years ago... it shot well enough, accuracy was decent, but it was waaaay to big and heavy for wht it was. I used to think they would blow up in your face due to the chaepness.... but I found this series of videos on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbvvurXm ... 7PDBPfKV4s
that changed my mind....
I think you would be better off for a cheapie first handgun with a smith and wesson sigma or SD 9mm
Their 9mm carbine was pretty good.
I never could convince myself I wanted one. Might be a good, cheap, first pistol. bgreene, if you get one, I'll help you shoot it.
greener wrote:Taurus Millenium Pro. Going around here for $320. Pretty good feel. Also, some of the Phillipine 1911's go at a reasonable price.
The trouble with having a handcannon comes in feeding them if you shoot a lot. 9mm handguns aren't quite as expensive to feed.
For a first handgun I like .22's such as a Ruger or S&W22A. Accurate shooters and inexpensive to shoot. Of course I like .22's and always carry at least one to the range. Usually 3 or more.
I tend to agree.
A "hand cannon" will break the bank (and maybe the hand) in a hurry. I've owned several.
My favorite LGC has Remington UMC 9 mm ammo for $8.99 per box of 50 everyday. That's cheaper than shooting 22 mag. so I shoot A LOT of it. The 9 and .22 long rifle are the way to go for me. I also enjoy my .38s and .357 every now and then. I'm too old to prove anything with hand cannons anymore.
I hot a hi-point 45 once, it shot to point of aim and put the bullets where the sight were lined up.... not bad but way to bulky for what it is. the hi-point carbines are very cool, and work great frm what I fear.
Greener, I have no plans on buyng a hi-point pistol. bt i wouldn't turn one down if it was guven to me.
Greener, I have no plans on buyng a hi-point pistol. bt i wouldn't turn one down if it was guven to me.
"Courage is being scared to death... and saddling up anyway."
-John Wayne
-John Wayne
m60,
FWIW take heed of Greener's advice on getting a 22 first. I would suggest the same for the following reasons.
1. It will take 20-50,000 rounds down the bore to become a better than average pistol shot. Take the price of good 22 bulk ammo and compare it to the price of the cheapest 9mm round available and you quickly find out you can shoot over 5 times as much for the same $$.
2. A 22 will give you the same feedback on your shooting skill set as a larger caliber. It will teach you sight alignment and trigger control, if you are open to learning.
3. A 22 can be shot in virtually any indoor or outdoor range.
4. A good 22 (note I did not say expensive) is inherently far more accurate than a larger bore even costing 2-3 times as much. Most of the firearm suggestions you will get from this forum will shoot far better than you will EVER be capable to shoot them, this statement is not meant as a slam, they are just that accurate.
5. While not stroking the inherent need for recoil and noise, the 22 will teach you without breaking you. (yes I was 21 once too, and my first handgun was a Ruger 45 Colt so I've made most of the mistakes I'm cautioning you against).
I would encourage you to start with the 22 for about a year, maybe less depending on your learning curve and how much exposure you will have to good shooters. When you're on the range and seeing someone tearing the centers out of the black, ask him/her to critique you and give you some advice. There are no deep dark secrets on how to shoot a handgun well. All the basic information you will ever need is available on the internet if you are open to it. There is a wealth of information on this forum should you care to ask. Don't be hesitant to ask! There is no such thing as a dumb question, the only reason someone can answer it is because they asked the same question before you did.
If there is an active Bullseye shooter/league in your area, I would strongly encourage you to seek them out. If you can learn to control your trigger, shooting Bullseye, you can use that skill to transition to any other shooting discipline and do very well, the reverse is not true without having to unlearn a lot. You are now a blank slate as a pistol shooter. You can either fill your slate with good solid proven techniques or you can do what I did and learn the long and expensive way.
FWIW
FWIW take heed of Greener's advice on getting a 22 first. I would suggest the same for the following reasons.
1. It will take 20-50,000 rounds down the bore to become a better than average pistol shot. Take the price of good 22 bulk ammo and compare it to the price of the cheapest 9mm round available and you quickly find out you can shoot over 5 times as much for the same $$.
2. A 22 will give you the same feedback on your shooting skill set as a larger caliber. It will teach you sight alignment and trigger control, if you are open to learning.
3. A 22 can be shot in virtually any indoor or outdoor range.
4. A good 22 (note I did not say expensive) is inherently far more accurate than a larger bore even costing 2-3 times as much. Most of the firearm suggestions you will get from this forum will shoot far better than you will EVER be capable to shoot them, this statement is not meant as a slam, they are just that accurate.
5. While not stroking the inherent need for recoil and noise, the 22 will teach you without breaking you. (yes I was 21 once too, and my first handgun was a Ruger 45 Colt so I've made most of the mistakes I'm cautioning you against).
I would encourage you to start with the 22 for about a year, maybe less depending on your learning curve and how much exposure you will have to good shooters. When you're on the range and seeing someone tearing the centers out of the black, ask him/her to critique you and give you some advice. There are no deep dark secrets on how to shoot a handgun well. All the basic information you will ever need is available on the internet if you are open to it. There is a wealth of information on this forum should you care to ask. Don't be hesitant to ask! There is no such thing as a dumb question, the only reason someone can answer it is because they asked the same question before you did.
If there is an active Bullseye shooter/league in your area, I would strongly encourage you to seek them out. If you can learn to control your trigger, shooting Bullseye, you can use that skill to transition to any other shooting discipline and do very well, the reverse is not true without having to unlearn a lot. You are now a blank slate as a pistol shooter. You can either fill your slate with good solid proven techniques or you can do what I did and learn the long and expensive way.
FWIW
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