Self Defense
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Self Defense
I have a Beretta Bobcat 22lr pocket pistol that I have been using lately for my carry gun.
I don't carry very much, probably because I can't for work, or I don't feel the need to carry.
But when I do carry, the Bobcat is so comfortable to carry, it makes it easy. I use CCI Velocitor
ammo which is virtually 100% reliable. It is a hollow point round @ 1435 ft/sec. The gun
is so light and comfortable, and I can reel off 10 rounds in about 2-3 secs if needed because of zero muzzle flip.
I wonder if anybody else uses a bobcat, or another 22lr for SD carry?
Haka
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I don't carry very much, probably because I can't for work, or I don't feel the need to carry.
But when I do carry, the Bobcat is so comfortable to carry, it makes it easy. I use CCI Velocitor
ammo which is virtually 100% reliable. It is a hollow point round @ 1435 ft/sec. The gun
is so light and comfortable, and I can reel off 10 rounds in about 2-3 secs if needed because of zero muzzle flip.
I wonder if anybody else uses a bobcat, or another 22lr for SD carry?
Haka
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- bigfatdave
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Not enough to get you into a gunfight, but it might be just enough to get out of one.
Far better than harsh words or a contact weapon for serious uses.
Is that thing really smaller than a modern .32, though? I've actually forgotten my KelTec P32 was in a pocket a few times, small, light, and most importantly to me - FLAT.
Velocitors or other high-end CCI is a winning plan, though. On the (extremely) rare occasions I've carried my NAA mini* I load up with CCI, Stingers or SGB/velocitors would bee the load in .22LR, I load up with CCI maxi-mags in the magnum cylinder even though they don't do much more than the LR stuff (well, louder!).
* (even less firepower than your Bobcat! 5 rounds single action)
Far better than harsh words or a contact weapon for serious uses.
Is that thing really smaller than a modern .32, though? I've actually forgotten my KelTec P32 was in a pocket a few times, small, light, and most importantly to me - FLAT.
Velocitors or other high-end CCI is a winning plan, though. On the (extremely) rare occasions I've carried my NAA mini* I load up with CCI, Stingers or SGB/velocitors would bee the load in .22LR, I load up with CCI maxi-mags in the magnum cylinder even though they don't do much more than the LR stuff (well, louder!).
* (even less firepower than your Bobcat! 5 rounds single action)
Hak, you're right up my alley! I have three Bobcats. Various posts here have mentioned that they are my carry gun. I decided just like you, and use Velocitor for carry. The CCI figures are for a rifle barrel, though.
I found some Bobcat figures somewhere online. Velocitor still manages about 875 fps and 110 ft. lbs. of energy at the muzzle of a Bobcat. Not bad, and still a 40 grain to boot. Stinger is a little faster, but only 31 grains.
I like 'em. Only 14 ounces loaded, and one inch thick. I think only a Seecamp .32, or one of NAA's mini-revolvers is smaller or lighter.
I found some Bobcat figures somewhere online. Velocitor still manages about 875 fps and 110 ft. lbs. of energy at the muzzle of a Bobcat. Not bad, and still a 40 grain to boot. Stinger is a little faster, but only 31 grains.
I like 'em. Only 14 ounces loaded, and one inch thick. I think only a Seecamp .32, or one of NAA's mini-revolvers is smaller or lighter.
* 2 Ruger Bearcat stainless, w/ EWK ejector housings & Wolff springs
* Ruger SP-101 .22LR, w/ Wolff springs
* 2 NAA Guardian .32ACP
* 3 Zastava M70 .32ACP
* S&W 15-22 Sport (.22LR AR)
* 2 Ruger SR22 .22LR pistols
* Ruger SP-101 .22LR, w/ Wolff springs
* 2 NAA Guardian .32ACP
* 3 Zastava M70 .32ACP
* S&W 15-22 Sport (.22LR AR)
* 2 Ruger SR22 .22LR pistols
They're neat little guns. I've enjoyed mine. Just don't move the targets back too far.........
* 2 Ruger Bearcat stainless, w/ EWK ejector housings & Wolff springs
* Ruger SP-101 .22LR, w/ Wolff springs
* 2 NAA Guardian .32ACP
* 3 Zastava M70 .32ACP
* S&W 15-22 Sport (.22LR AR)
* 2 Ruger SR22 .22LR pistols
* Ruger SP-101 .22LR, w/ Wolff springs
* 2 NAA Guardian .32ACP
* 3 Zastava M70 .32ACP
* S&W 15-22 Sport (.22LR AR)
* 2 Ruger SR22 .22LR pistols
I'm still not comfortable with a 22 for self defense. I once new a man that was shot by a 22 rifle and took the rifle away from the attacker and beat him to death with it. I do carry a Ruger LCP 380 and that is about as small as I will go for self protection. It carries well and I often forget I have it in my pocket. I also carry a 40 caliber or 45 caliber at times but as a matter of comfort and convemience I almost always carry the LCP.
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I am a firm believer in BIG BULLETS!.380 acp ia all right as a backup, prefer .45ACP but .38Spl +P's are as light as I will go for a primary. Getting old an do carry the .38 most of the time now. A little lighter than a 2 pound .45.
You have great day and shoot straight and may the Good Lord smile on you.
One of those "any caliber is fine, as long as it starts with 4" guys, eh?bearandoldman wrote:I am a firm believer in BIG BULLETS!.380 acp ia all right as a backup, prefer .45ACP but .38Spl +P's are as light as I will go for a primary. Getting old an do carry the .38 most of the time now. A little lighter than a 2 pound .45.
Unless it's in a holster, I like the .38 in my pocket
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Makes 3...bearandoldman wrote:That makes at least two of us and most likely a lot more!!!Medicine Hat wrote: Too darned old to run, fight, or take a whoopin.
I prefer a little more fire power than a 22. The smallest for me is 9mm. Since the introduction of custom ammo the 380 now makes a good backup gun.
David
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How does Clint Smith say it... a gun should be comforting not comfortable? Personally if I knew I was going to need a gun to go somewhere, I wouldn't go there or i would take a shotgun or rifle.....and all my friends with their long guns.bearandoldman wrote:I am a firm believer in BIG BULLETS!.380 acp ia all right as a backup, prefer .45ACP but .38Spl +P's are as light as I will go for a primary. Getting old an do carry the .38 most of the time now. A little lighter than a 2 pound .45.