Ruger vs Smith

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:46 pm

I went to the range today with a challenge in mind, comparing the Ruger Mlll Hunter to the S&W 617. Both about the same length barrels, 6 7/8" for the Ruger, and 6" for the Smith. The Ruger is a semi-auto and the Smith is a DA Revolver. Using the same ammo, 50 rds ea, I shot at a pace of 1 rd every 2secs. Both guns are a pleasure to shoot, and it really isn't a surprise that the Ruger out shot the Smith slightly, due to the Smith being a "stiff" DA trigger pull. Although, if it weren't for the odd fliers, they both are quite equal. Each gun has it's own pluses and minus', and both are a compliment to any arsenal. The ruger got a little dirty and started to have the occasional FTE, where the Smith just churns out the shots without a problem. The Ruger is a little more accurate because of the great trigger I have on it and, again, the Smith is a hearty DA pull.
Haka

greener · Post by **greener** » Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:54 pm

Close, but I'd give a slight edge to the smith. However, you don't have a statistically significant sampling, so you need to repeat this test a number of times.

ruger22 · Post by **ruger22** » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:51 am

greener wrote:Close, but I'd give a slight edge to the smith. However, you don't have a statistically significant sampling, so you need to repeat this test a number of times.

With several brands and styles of ammo, too.......

Bud33 · Post by **Bud33** » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:36 pm

As I recall the Auto is traditionally more accurate than the wheel gun due to the release of gas between the cylinder and the barrel of the wheel gun. This make for a variable in muzzle pressure , thus a loss of accuracy.

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Sun Dec 18, 2011 11:26 am

As I recall the Auto is traditionally more accurate than the wheel gun due to the release of gas between the cylinder and the barrel of the wheel gun. This make for a variable in muzzle pressure , thus a loss of accuracy.

Interesting point, I also think the trigger pull has something to do with it in this case. The Mlll has had a trigger job done to it, and the SW has a firm da pull to it.
Haka

bgreenea3 · Post by **bgreenea3** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:28 am

The revolver also has multiple chambers instead of one to align with the bore for each shot....

Georgezilla · Post by **Georgezilla** » Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:04 pm

Bud and bgreenea bring up good points. I've read about both the points Bud and bg bring up.

For precision, every time the cylinder on a revolver indexes on a stock revolver it's like shooting a different pistol. There aren't many precision revolver shooters around, but the couple I have talked to have noted that they always start their strings on the same cylinder so that they don't get surprised by the POI.

greener · Post by **greener** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:26 am

I think it takes great precision to scatter the holes all over the paper in the correct pattern. A lot more skill than putting them all in one hole.

At least that's what I tell myself when I'm having one of my precision shotgun pattern days.

Georgezilla · Post by **Georgezilla** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:34 pm

That's a nice way to look at it, greener

Reminds me of the second time I ever shot a pistol. I was a terrible shot and I unintentionally was able to hit the 2 top thumbtacks that were holding my target up.

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:55 pm

Those are shootnsee targets, why waste the shootnsee areas?

ruger22 · Post by **ruger22** » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:05 pm

On my first range trip in 25-odd years, I was death on the clothes pins holding my targets. If I ever get mugged by a clothes pin, it's in serious trouble.

It was two or three trips before I quit shooting the metal support for my spinning rubber prairie dog. Shooting is definitely not like riding a bicycle.

Post by **Bullseye** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 12:07 pm

Got to keep an eye out for those clothespins, they like to congregate in bunches and hang-out a lot. You never know when they'll pin you down.

R,
Bullseye

greener · Post by **greener** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:57 pm

I keep two clothes pins in my range bag. I'm not attacked because they know I have hostages.

Last time I went shooting with bgreene, I shot the wire on his spinner. I told him it was an accident, but it really was a well-placed shot.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:49 pm

greener wrote:I keep two clothes pins in my range bag. I'm not attacked because they know I have hostages.

Last time I went shooting with bgreene, I shot the wire on his spinner. I told him it was an accident, but it really was a well-placed shot.

If you say so. I will take it as gospel.

ruger22 · Post by **ruger22** » Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:45 am

greener wrote:I keep two clothes pins in my range bag. I'm not attacked because they know I have hostages.

Last time I went shooting with bgreene, I shot the wire on his spinner. I told him it was an accident, but it really was a well-placed shot.

So next time you shoot together, he'll set up just the wire for you.........

I can also attest that the weight at the bottom is .22 proof. Just makes a faint dimple.