Mark III locked up
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Mark III locked up
Sigh.. I did it too... too big a hurry to clean it. can't release the mainspring. popped the frame pin which allowed the bolt to release, but, please....
HELP!!!
HELP!!!
Welcome to the forum.
Take a look at the troubleshooting page http://www.guntalk-online.com/TroubleshootingPage.htm
For an intact pistol, insert an empty mag, point the muzzle down and pull the trigger. If the hammer is cocked, this will decock it. Remove mag, then remove mainspring. I suspect you have the hammer strut behind the frame pin. You man need to insert a mag, pull the trigger, point the muzzle down and strike a hard, padded object (carpeted floor) with the muzzle to move the hammer forward. This may take several very sharp raps.
Take a look at the troubleshooting page http://www.guntalk-online.com/TroubleshootingPage.htm
For an intact pistol, insert an empty mag, point the muzzle down and pull the trigger. If the hammer is cocked, this will decock it. Remove mag, then remove mainspring. I suspect you have the hammer strut behind the frame pin. You man need to insert a mag, pull the trigger, point the muzzle down and strike a hard, padded object (carpeted floor) with the muzzle to move the hammer forward. This may take several very sharp raps.
I'm not sure what pin you popped. A better description would be helpful.popped the frame pin which allowed the bolt to release,
Wow what a coincdence, I just helped someone else with a stuck mainspring housing yesterday too. He had a 22/45 framed MKIII Hunter. What kind of frame does your Mark III have?
Greener posted the procedure that will move the hammer forward. Two points: one you have to bang the muzzle pretty hard on the block of wood while continuing to hold the trigger rearward; two you should open up the latch on the mainspring housing so it isn't pinching the hammer strut and preventing the hammer from traveling forward.
R,
Bullseye
Greener posted the procedure that will move the hammer forward. Two points: one you have to bang the muzzle pretty hard on the block of wood while continuing to hold the trigger rearward; two you should open up the latch on the mainspring housing so it isn't pinching the hammer strut and preventing the hammer from traveling forward.
R,
Bullseye
I just fixed a friends mkII 22/45 that had locked up....unfortunately her brother tried to muscle the slide off and broke the hammer pin and hammer bushing, took about 10 min to put back together after she got a new bushing and pin, sounds like you got something similar going on there, take it easy and don't do the "get a bigger hammer" technique....usually it is something simple like greener posted that is your solution.
If you can get the mainspring off look up into the frame and try to see what you got going on in there a small punch (screw driver, allen wrench, cleaning rod, etc) might be able to move your hammer and parts around enough to free up the action and get your pistol apart. just use the service page to put things back together
If you can get the mainspring off look up into the frame and try to see what you got going on in there a small punch (screw driver, allen wrench, cleaning rod, etc) might be able to move your hammer and parts around enough to free up the action and get your pistol apart. just use the service page to put things back together
*whew* got it out.. the hammer strut had popped out, and a large screw in the mainspring housing had backed out, binding up the housing. some judicious 'prying' it popped out. I filed the offending metal away and it assembles fine.
I took the opportunity to strip/assemble the seer/hammer assy 8 or 9 times till I figured it out. Once you figure where the doodads and thingamajigs go, it's right easy!!...
meantime, I broke the rear sight blade, sooooo... waiting for lh grips, a sear, and now a new sight blade (maybe that fancy TL2000??..
Speaking of sears, we have a great seer right here...
Thanks Bullseye!!
I took the opportunity to strip/assemble the seer/hammer assy 8 or 9 times till I figured it out. Once you figure where the doodads and thingamajigs go, it's right easy!!...
meantime, I broke the rear sight blade, sooooo... waiting for lh grips, a sear, and now a new sight blade (maybe that fancy TL2000??..
Speaking of sears, we have a great seer right here...
Thanks Bullseye!!
Glad to hear you got it working. I didn't think to mention about ensuring the mainspring lock screw is turned all the way into the housing; I'll remember to remind folks about that next time.
How did you break a rear sight blade? That's got to be a good story if you care to share it.
Enjoy your pistol!
R,
Bullseye
How did you break a rear sight blade? That's got to be a good story if you care to share it.
Enjoy your pistol!
R,
Bullseye
well, uh, sometimes you just don't hit what your swingin' at....Bullseye wrote:Glad to hear you got it working. I didn't think to mention about ensuring the mainspring lock screw is turned all the way into the housing; I'll remember to remind folks about that next time.
How did you break a rear sight blade? That's got to be a good story if you care to share it.
Enjoy your pistol!
R,
Bullseye
Also, that mainspring lock screw is one of those ones that requires the allen wrench with the hole drilled in the end......
update:!! http://www.guntalk-online.com/2245detai ... sightblade
I never noticed it uses the funky key!!! Man, you have to read EVERYTHING on here... lol
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