School board shooting

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:21 am

Watching Fox news this morning and Geraldo was on and gave his opinion on this incident, and I really have to agree with him. The shooter really did not intend to hit anyone and was trying to get the security to kill him, so he did not have to do it primarily himself. How could anyone stand there and fire that many shots and not accidentally hit someone???

blue68f100 · Post by **blue68f100** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:45 am

The same way I watch people come to the indoor range for the first time. They rent a gun, put up a ANT-4 target at 15 yrds and empty a mag (gangster style) and never hit the target. This is when I'm glad I'm not near them. Lucky for us old timers they put us together away from new shooters.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:57 am

From the video I just watched again he looked like he was taking a deliberate aim and not rushing his shots and shooting from the gangster position. At that range point and shoot with my J would have decimated the board. Looks to me like Geraldo may be right.

KAZ · Post by **KAZ** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:38 am

The thing that stands out to me is the Women who came in behind him(left her place of safety) and struck down his arm could have used a little help to subdue the shooter. Instead they just sat there and allowed him to recover like spectators. I'm really thankful that she was unharmed. Regards

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:06 am

Now that was one youung lady with courage, to protect others and not cower. Had she been armed, he would have been dowb much quicker.

lucam · Post by **lucam** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:22 am

If you watch the video closely, the second shot goes into the floor, right in front of him. He doesn't appear to be aiming at all.

I think he was trying to hit someone.

What amazes me is the security guard hit ONLY the shooter.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:34 am

lucam wrote:If you watch the video closely, the second shot goes into the floor, right in front of him. He doesn't appear to be aiming at all.

I think he was trying to hit someone.

What amazes me is the security guard hit ONLY the shooter.

Why does it amaze you, thatr is what he intended to do. The man ,ust have been well trained and stuck with his training, I admire him for his accuracy.

Hakaman · Post by **Hakaman** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:30 pm

Here is a link to a video of the shooting, if anybody hasn't seen it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id= ... photovideo

It must have been a scary situation being at the mercy of this lunatic.
The lady has a set of family jewels not many other have.
It does appear that his main intention was dying.
Times are tough, we should all be on the lookout for crazies.

bigfatdave · Post by **bigfatdave** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:57 pm

So .. who thinks that this incident would have occurred if the school board building wasn't a gun free zone?

Someone with that little skill and not enough determination to just off themselves probably wouldn't try out this little violent fantasy anywhere there might be armed victims.

And the purse-wielding lady would have been far more effective with even my smallest weapon, but she gets major points for determination. She was obviously wearing brass ovaries on the outside that day, and I can't believe nobody got out of their seat to take down the wannabe-Cho when she provided a distraction.

greener · Post by **greener** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:47 pm

Better video than I've seen on TV. The guy was aiming. He may have planned suicide by cop, but he was aiming at the Board President. Just a lousy shot.

I agree with BAOM. Security guard, a retired cop, fired aimed shots that hit the target. Considering he was on the run into a situation where folks were getting shot at, I figure he did darned well. I never had to do that and hope I never have to find out how good a shot I am when it really counts.

Agree with the gun free zone, dave. However, there are places you just don't figure you need to go armed. I once thought they were college campi and buildings like this. Guess I was wrong.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:48 pm

Hakaman wrote:Here is a link to a video of the shooting, if anybody hasn't seen it.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id= ... photovideo

It must have been a scary situation being at the mercy of this lunatic.
The lady has a set of family jewels not many other have.
It does appear that his main intention was dying.
Times are tough, we should all be on the lookout for crazies.

Well said Haka and you and I think about the same.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:50 pm

bigfatdave wrote:So .. who thinks that this incident would have occurred if the school board building wasn't a gun free zone?

Someone with that little skill and not enough determination to just off themselves probably wouldn't try out this little violent fantasy anywhere there might be armed victims.

And the purse-wielding lady would have been far more effective with even my smallest weapon, but she gets major points for determination. She was obviously wearing brass ovaries on the outside that day, and I can't believe nobody got out of their seat to take down the wannabe-Cho when she provided a distraction.

Sure would like to meet that young lady, I reaslly admire a gal with CLASS.

bearandoldman · Post by **bearandoldman** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:57 pm

Greener. there are places where you should not really need a gun, but it sure is a good feeking tio have oone. Personally never leave the gouae without one. Mowing the lawn armed is a usual occurence here.

greener · Post by **greener** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:58 pm

Heard her interview on Fox. She said she really didn't think about it, just seemed like the thing to do.

glockeyed · Post by **glockeyed** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:14 pm

greener wrote: However, there are places you just don't figure you need to go armed. I once thought they were college campi and buildings like this. Guess I was wrong.

my shower is about the only one i can think of.