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by hubel585
Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:08 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

In above post we compare the top thickness of sabots .Here is comparison of the thickness of the sides of two types of brass 12ga cases, the RMC turned case and the thinner Magtech drawn case. Easy to see you can't size with same dies and sometimes you have to use different wads.. http://www.gunowne...
by hubel585
Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:21 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

Here is picture of our 12ga sabots with the marks that the barrel lands made, marked with black marker. The one with narrow mark is Savage barrel and one with wide mark is an Abolt barrel. And the ones fired in Savage and NEFs with the narrow lands the marks impressed into the plastic getting good b...
by hubel585
Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:18 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

One of our sabot testers with tight barrel, 12ga Abolt, with wide lands in the barrel, who couldn't do any good at all with our sabot and Alliant Steel and one type of slug, had to go to IMR 4759 & different slug. It would twist up the sabot petals. Terrible accuracy. My guns have NEF/Sav size barre...
by hubel585
Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:18 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

Here is picture of current 58cal slug options that you can get molds for from Lyman, Just make sure they are .574" to .577" diameter, the best size for the 12ga sabots. http://www.gunownerstv.com/lyman58.jpg A barrel of 585HE cases..Ed http://www.gunownerstv.com/585delivery.jpg Made by Bertram and I...
by hubel585
Sat Jul 06, 2013 1:17 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

We have moved few thousand sabots.More here. Here is picture of an 8ga wad with tube slug in it, we made. http://www.gunownerstv.com/8gatube.jpg A pallet load of our 585HE cases has arrived in the US and will be here in little while. And should be another pallet of them this fall. Here is picture of...
by hubel585
Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:34 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

Here is 16ga discarding sabots made from grey ones with other 16ga slugs.. 20 ga factory sabot on left for comparison. http://www.gunownerstv.com/16sabotother.jpg Here is picture of 12ga wads showing good and bad support to the bottom of the slug.If in part of the loads the support gets cocked, then...
by hubel585
Sun May 26, 2013 5:53 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

What causes sabot problems/inaccuracy. Some pictures will help. First 2 shows a skinny post that pushes on a cushion or sabot bottom and it can bend or deflect which if that way when exiting barrel can start sabot or slug crooked. http://www.gunownerstv.com/28badwad.jpg http://www.gunownerstv.com/16...
by hubel585
Mon May 06, 2013 10:56 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

The sabots work in brass cases .First is sabot in a Magtech brass case, next to 3" plastic.. In shorter brass it would hold about as much powder as in longer plastic if loaded like in the picture.. Sabots are about .734-735" with slugs in them, and the Magtech brass with its thin sides still is slig...
by hubel585
Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:21 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

Some more info about our sabots and various slug weights...... First and most important is our sabots fitting real tight like the Accutip Sabots, they will not get the same speed at the same pressures as the undersize grey and blue ones, But they do leave the barrel headed straighter and without dam...
by hubel585
Thu Apr 04, 2013 11:46 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

Here is picture of 45-50yd target, used a scoped NEF Ultra, the sabot load of a 440gr 58cal slug in it at 1800... Measures 2.5" on outside for 3 shots. http://www.gunownerstv.com/sabottarget.jpg Here is pic of almost 2100 of them. More coming. Time to get them and get loads working. http://www.gunow...
by hubel585
Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:44 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

Here is picture of a bunch of the sabots with different slugs and bullets. Back Row- Two roundball load, balls 285gr each-- pointed long 700 gr -- a blunt solid 700gr-- tungsten slug 1000gr --- jacketed bullet -- 600gr. 2nd row-611 Lyman 530gr Minie- 500gr flat base- Lee 500gr hard--Lee 500gr soft 1...
by hubel585
Fri Mar 29, 2013 3:16 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

We have a winner it seems. The 12ga sabots using 58cal slugs. http://www.gunownerstv.com/sabotpile.jpg The sample 12ga sabots got here earlier this week. And we got a bunch of testing already for opening and sealing, and some accuracy testing .440gr Minie bullet, measuring .575"; with OD of sabot wi...
by hubel585
Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:03 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

Here is picture of the 12ga short brass RMC cases being used in the 1887 WIN shown above. They are 2 5/8" long cases and we get 600gr over 1900. He had work done on action to get it to feed these and 3" roll crimped plastic. Brass loaded about same length as 3' plastic crimped little long. http://ww...
by hubel585
Tue Feb 26, 2013 10:37 pm
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

First picture is of a nice finished 87 Winchester Will Sanders got set up and he is using short brass cases.Beautiful scroll work on the stock. http://www.gunownerstv.com/wills87.jpg Next is takeoff of a slug idea from Longbow on Cast Boolits, 12ga lead roundball with section copper tube, wads compr...
by hubel585
Thu Jan 31, 2013 5:12 am
Forum: Miscellaneous
Topic: 12ga,10ga,8ga,4ga FH; 585HE, 700HE; Other Big bores--
Replies: 78
Views: 1119231

Last picture above shows what can be with sabots. It was thought to be 20ga size when we got picture, but it is a smaller 45cal caliber sabot with 30cal streamlined bullets in them. This was set up by the poster 'edge' on Castbullets forum. More info on the SPW sabots with 520 gr Lyman reworked and ...