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I think we found good overall sabot design that will be the easiest to get made, easiest to get seals and whatever wads needed... Keeping design simple. It is same simple design as the ones pictured above but with slightly thicker base.It is fairly compact for more room for our slow powder loads, an...

Some info we have found out about the operation of discarding sabots. In first picture you see thin white line between the strong powder and the sabot. It is the white fiber cushion wad pressed flat. It is shown on the left in second picture. In the picture of it compressed you see it is pushing squ...

Here are a couple high speed, stop frame photos, showing how well and even these sabots we want to get made, open up. The petals being thinner with 58 cal bullets or slugs, opens easy. The slots between petals, going into the base aids even opening. We know a couple retailers that are interested in ...

The sabots we are working with, take at least 15 different 58cal cast slugs for good fit, with the OD measurement of sabot at .733" with all of them in. There are 5 Dixie Gunworks MZ slugs, 6 slugs from Lyman moulds I know of. Five slugs from Lee moulds.These are mainly muzzleloading slugs and can b...

Some possibilities with the 12ga sabots we have been looking at. We may have possible leads on companies that can make sabots, that have most of equipment to do so. If they work out ok, the startup cost isn't as high as others who have to set up complete machines. We are working to line up a dealer ...

Some more 12ga sabot work. The sabots in first picture are like ones we want to get made for reloading. They have 440gr Dixie Gunworks muzzleloading minie slug. I related earlier that 3 shots with these in heavy rifled barrel NEF got them all in nearly the same hole, at 30 yds. Also 4 shots same dis...

Another 12ga sabot idea, first picture is a 570 gr USS slug, with Powder Cup seal from BPI, locked to USS discarding sabot section. This shortens column so that we can get more of the slower powders in we use, in shorter 2.75" cases. With slower powders, they get to peak pressure a little easier so ...

Here is some more older cartridges and ideas. First is a fellows collection of older brass cases. They look like Berdan primed. Run from 36ga to 12ga, big one on right is flare cartridge. http://www.gunownerstv.com/36-12brass.jpg Second is a paper case clad with thin brass nearly to the top. http://...

Some more slug setups and ideas. First is USS brand sabot that European cartridge has, without locked base, a discarding 12ga sabot, with .629" brass slug. It is as accurate in rifled barrel as its locked on base counterpart, in smooth barrels. Up to 750 gr brass slug I tested. 3 shots in an inch, 3...

Some more sabot and slug ideas, discarding types and locked on base types. First picture of 20ga Buckhamer pulled apart. The bunch I have were pulled apart, the slug won't lock back in tight, into the base. http://www.gunownerstv.com/buckha20.jpg Second is various 20ga sabot/slug ideas some using bu...

Here are some more sabot/slug and loading concepts. First is Alcan 2.75" paper case with Dixie 600gr slug, with the side of the case crimped into the relief/lube groove of the Dixie slug.The groove in the Dixie isn't quite as deep as the groove in the Fosbury slug shown in earlier post, but still se...

Some more slug and sabot ideas folks are doing. First is a long pointed slug with locked on base, It goes to target with base,can work smoothbore. http://www.gunownerstv.com/paraklese.jpg Second is picture of Hexolit sabot base slug with petals expanded, sure would make bad wound. http://www.gunowne...

First picture is an RC4 brand slug I see is available down under. It has locked base like Brenekke. And locked on without discarding petals, like US-S. And 2nd picture is a group fired with RC4 slugs by fellow on NitroExpress forums from a good double 12ga, 2 left and 2 rights at 25yds. This shows t...

Here are couple more pictures of longer bullets in sabots, loaded in plastic cases, with the roll crimp down against the sabot. Both are ideas tested by European Cartridge in Greece, who make the US-S slugs. Both longer bullets pictured have the locked on base that their other US-S slugs have, for s...

Here is picture of 4 long cases, top being a Rocky Mtn Cartridge 3.5" turned brass 20ga. Next a RMC 3.5" turned brass 12ga. 3rd down our 3.85" 12ga FH we made from BMG brass. Bottom a RMC 3.85" turned brass 12ga FH case. http://www.gunownerstv.com/rip4.jpg Next picture shows one of the old ways they...