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Depends on which gauge or caliber used. A 440gr 58 cal Minie in a 12ga sabot in plastic can be doing 1800 at 150yds, has 3100 ft lbs. A 720gr slug in 12gaFH long brass case doing 2000 at same distance has twice as much. Same with a 750 gr in my 585HE. And 1000gr in 700HE at same range doing 2000 wil...

Little work on non-discarding 12ga sabots,You can get SPW wads without slugs in them and we set up one for a light load. We put a 20ga Lyman in some and they stay together ok. Just shorten the bottom skirt of Lyman and bevel the bottom corner. Total weight sabot and all is 360gr,,Shown In the pictur...

In our research to find economical and easy to use setups to load various slug/sabot combos in 12, 20 and other gauges, you've seen what we are doing with 58cal slugs in 12ga accutip type sabot we are getting built, and 58cal slugs in 20ga BPI Commander shotwad. You've seen pics of group shot by Aja...

First is picture of the 8ga Falling Block with texturized paint finish on the stock. It enhances the grip quite a bit on hard recoil guns. http://www.gunownerstv.com/8gafinish.jpg Second is the Greener that I have my 585 HE in.Also have 12ga barrel for it.. http://www.gunownerstv.com/585greener.jpg ...

Here is overall view of the Armi-Lumar O/U 12ga that has one barrel rifled. Second is another view of the breach. Nice looking gun. http://www.gunownerstv.com/armi-lumar3.jpg http://www.gunownerstv.com/armi-lumar2.jpg Here is picture of the 58cal Minie bullets in 20ga BPI Commander shotcup wads, and...

Here is breach picture of that 12ga O/U made by Armi-Lumar It has the bottom barrel rifled right from factory, top barrel smooth, with interchangeble chokes. A real neat gun. http://www.gunownerstv.com/armi-lumar.jpg Good news, I got few samples of first production run of my 585HE cases from Bertram...

I found pictures of a factory 12ga over under that has bottom barrel rifled, top one smooth with screw in chokes. Will have pics few days. Don't know how heavy barrel is yet. Also will have pictures and test of brass 585HE sent here. They are 585HE case samples from the first big run of my 585HE cas...

We hope a company will be making our modeled 12ga sabots soon, this fall, to deliver to reloaders and suppliers.. We also got first part of funds collected for the initial big run for our 585HE long cases being made. Sending in bunch this week, and need more to make run bigger For more info if your ...

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Here is picture of the two ball sabot load, using two 58cal balls in a 12ga Accutip style sabot. http://www.gunownerstv.com/58ballsabot.jpg Hoping we will have sabot like above for reloading soon, in volumn so we can load and test a bunch of these 58cal bullets and slugs. There are soft cast, hard c...

Sorry, late in posting, bad weather, computer lines zapped again. Some more experimenting with the Accutip sabots, Designed a two ball load using .577" cast lead balls. Bottom ball flattened a little in vise with the flats up and down in sabot. Used a fold crimp, 3.5" once fired REM case in NEF, lon...

With other scoped NEF Ultra 12ga, 24 inch barrel, shot hard cast, 400 gr 58cal Lyman Minie in Accutip sabot at 75 yds. Hit small paper plate 5 for 5. Going 2000fps. Speaking of 585HE above. We have two in falling blocks, 10 bolt guns,5 break actions, and other types. A fun cartridge, and now that we...

Back after losing time to a lightning fried computer. Test in 3.5" plastic using a few accutip 12ga sabots out of factory loads. The 12ga accutip sabot, hard cast 440gr 58cal minie slug in 36" rifled NEF at 2200, and it went through 12 inches of wood like butter. The hole out showed it was starting ...

Some 12ga sabot progress. Here is pic of our sabot model, two in front, shown with Accutip sabot behind. They are all holding 58cal slugs, showing how tight they fit and conform to the inside of the sabot petals. A decent fit is a help for better accuracy. Hope they get built for us this summer. We ...

Working more with 58cal lead slugs in 12ga sabot we want to get built. We shot a few for checking penetration, with 440gr slugs at 2200 plus fps. Shooting into popple. In picture the 6x6 on the left penetrated by harder lead alloy slug, with slug showing very little expansion on exit from the 6x6, O...